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News Second Life sex program lawsuit

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Da Dego, 13 Aug 2007.

  1. Da Dego

    Da Dego Brett Thomas

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  2. iwog

    iwog Linux cursed

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    Are you seriously asking how many bit-tech readers have pirated software? Because i can only think of one person i know with a legal copy of office. And i would seriously love to meet anyone in this day and age with a perfectly clean system, ie nothing ilegal at all, because i dont think they exist.

    And this case is bad news, as it blurs the line between virtual and real and would give the US government a stronger case to tax virtual worlds. As i imagine one of the arguments will be loss of earnings, and if you can sue for it i'm pretty sure you can tax it :(
     
  3. Delphium

    Delphium Eyefinity enabled

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    "Ever tried Second Life?"
    Thankfully not, I try my best to stay clear of it!
    You know when things are bad when you require a second life, not content with the one you have.

    Just erase the game and servers I say, be a lot less headaches for us all.
     
  4. boiled_elephant

    boiled_elephant Whitelist Bit-Tech in your adblock!

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    I disagree that this is a bad thing...the game does a good job of setting up a trading environment with real money and virtual goods. It's less of a videogame and more WoW meets Ebay. It seems perfectly reasonable to me that one dude is sueing another dude for selling stuff that wasn't his to sell, since real profits ARE concerned here; I don't think this case has any ramifications for the rest of the gaming world. This case has a valid foundation; all other legal cases involving video games (that is, REAL video games, not half-way counterparts) have been trampled down in laughter (see also: the Catholic Church vs. Sony case :p )
     
  5. DXR_13KE

    DXR_13KE BananaModder

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    i am thinking of Glider..... :p
     
  6. chrisb2e9

    chrisb2e9 Dont do that...

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    I tried second life years ago when it first came out. didn't run well on my comp but watching someone build a catapult to fling animals was entertaining for a bit. I've thought about trying it since then now that i've gone through a few more pc's but i would rather do something in the real world instead.
     
  7. Morphine-Kitty

    Morphine-Kitty Dead account.

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    I know only 1 person with a completely legal system. She buys her music off of iTunes and everything.

    It's sad when I only know one person who doesn't commit internet piracy...
     
  8. [USRF]Obiwan

    [USRF]Obiwan New Member

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    I rather play HalfLife...

    :D
     
  9. Cupboard

    Cupboard I'm not a modder.

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    Mine's not too bad, but I did get the oppurtunity to buy my OS for $40 from the MS company store :D
    Vista ultimate for $40 and office ultimate for $70 i think it was.
     
  10. zabe

    zabe Perfect in my imperfection

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    I already have my life with a quite full timetable of social entertainment with real people, I can't really understand why people would leave their real lives aside to go and create a new personality that doesn't even exist. Maybe they're unhappy with their lives? Then try to make it better, don't play your dream-life in a game: the easy way is never the right way.

    Still, if the guy had created content of his own and the other is making a profit without the author's permission (and even laughing at his face as it seems), I say GO!! and crunch him under mountains of legal papers. That'll teach him to play fair... and some respect for others' work.
     
  11. wafflesomd

    wafflesomd New Member

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    Haha, sexy lawsuits!
     
  12. Bungle

    Bungle Rainbow Warrior

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    Porn copyright.....anyone else see the irony of that.:D
     
  13. DougEdey

    DougEdey I pwn all your storage

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    I would be one of those people, there's no need for illegal software when we have free alternatives.
     
  14. C-Sniper

    C-Sniper Stop Trolling this space Ądmins!

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    wow; instead of letting the real legal system work this out.... why not they put on in that game. That way our tax dollars aren't wasted on this ridiculous BS!
     
  15. Rebourne

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    Well he has a case, although this is pretty dang strange lol.
     
  16. chrisb2e9

    chrisb2e9 Dont do that...

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    Thats a good idea, he should sue for the money they use in the game.
     
  17. theSarge00

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    Better question to ask is: how many people can get through their day without checking their email? IMs? The web? Phones or voicemail*? Is there a lack of communication validity to these modes? Are they a game? No, because they're a person to person connection.

    So is Second Life. There is an essential blind spot in many people's minds in relation to Second Life (many of them even from inside SL) because it uses game system mechanics (logging into an online virtual world populated by 3d figures on a 3d landscape) that it is a game, but in essence, all SL IS is just another venue for the transfer of information from one person to one or more other people. One of the stated objectives of SL by it's designers, is for it to be the next stage of evolution for the web. There are no objectives except those one sets for oneself . Like the web, it's simply an environment onto which people impose their personal agendas.

    The press, of course, focuses on the E Ticket items - people making money in SL, and of course the Sex. Making money is no big thing; anyone with something to sell and an email address can get a paypal account and conduct business through the web. People make money off of all kinds of non-essential items: from designer clothes, to ringtones. Useless fripperies, as true in first life as in Second Life. Now sex, sex has glommed onto every form of communication since cave paintings. Porn drove the VHS standard, the CD Rom, the DVD, and many web protocols. Is it a surprise to anyone that it's in SL? Everyone talks about the uselessness of virtual sex, but someone's got to be lying, because porn is EVERYWHERE. Last time I was in Rome, across the street from the Vatican, I saw some of the filthiest smut you can imagine at a street vendor, tucked in with the humorous postcards of Michaelangelo 's David's cock, and the the latest Michellin travel guides. Porn is a HUGE business, so someone somewhere is buying it, and not just some trenchcoat wearing sociopaths. What's the difference between a virtual call-girl and a smutty story with pictures in a magazine? Only the interactive aspect - there's a real person, disinterested or not, at the other end of those pixels.

    Myself, I've been a digital compositor for the film and television industry for 11 years now. I rode the dot.com roller coaster, been married, divorced, and like Billy the Kid for killing, averaged out, been with a different woman for every year I've lived (and I was around when Camelot fell in the streets of Dallas, barely). I've wallowed in life, eaten it's fruits with appetite and appreciation. And I see Second Life not so much as an escape from my first life, but as an _extention_ - a new avenue for exploration and communication. Working in the film industry has been vastly rewarding, but even there, I never (directly) worked for a member of the peerage, a knight; however, in SL I did - a visiting surgeon who was giving a talk inWorld, and wanted an avatar that resembled him. On any given day I can chat with PhD's and artists, bricklayers and doctors, hookers and priests. I can attend a "live" reading by Vonnegut, or go to a concert given by an obscure Australian garage band. If I were so inclined, I could build an exact full scale model of my rw home and consult with decorators from around the world, live and in situ, and make the changes there and then, and even get an estimate on what it would cost to make those changes in the outside world.

    Mind you, it's far from perfect. It has problems like any other forum. Plenty of folks endanger primary relationships over it, or pass up opportunities to pursue it - however, plenty of folks will allow anything to have that degree of focus in their lives: from religion to politics to sports. They're seeking a plug for some hole in their lives, as EVERYONE is - some simply take it too far, and that's not just a problem with SL.

    I'm not saying it's deadly serious, however, SL isn't a game. It's a tool - for fun, or business, or self-expression.

    * Consider if you will: not 20 years ago, the idea of a person with a pod stuck in their ear allowing anyone to access them 24/7 like a a piece of required data would have been the crux of a sci fi cautionary tale - today, it's business as usual. The phone has within my adult lifetime changed from a feature of a place (home, office, or if you're a captain of industry, a radiophone in your car!) to a feature of a fully functional, socially integrated person.
     
  18. yuusou

    yuusou Well-Known Member

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    Ever tried a First Life?
     
  19. Amon

    Amon inch-perfect

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    Minimum system specs?
     
  20. Morphine-Kitty

    Morphine-Kitty Dead account.

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    I think the recommended ones are like a human body and mind or something. I haven't checked in a while though.
     
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