Hi folks, This is my first proper foray into modding. The reason behind it is that my girlfriend got given an old TV for her flat when she bought it. The TV didn't work that great and gave burning smells when used but she really liked the look of it. I suggested, half jokingly, that we put an LCD TV inside the old TV's case and she loved the idea. I figured I may as well use the rest of the space inside the old carcass somehow and the HTPC idea was born. I have a spare Epia 13000 jobby with a DVD/CD-RW combo drive and 40 GB laptop HDD so I figure buy a TV card, cheap LCD screen and cheap-ish 2.1 speakers and throw them all in and wahey. So, background out of the way, on to the pics of the victim and what we did to it... This batch of pics show us gutting the old TV. I think its older than me (seriously, its at least 26 years old, maybe more) and its certainly had 26 years worth of grime inside! Here's the pics. <EDIT> I have created links to all the pics from this first post to make it easier to view them all. Picture 1 Picture 2 Picture 3 Picture 4 Picture 5 Picture 6 Picture 7 Picture 8 Picture 9 Picture 10 Picture 11 Picture 12 Picture 13 Picture 14 Picture 15 Picture 16 Picture 17 Picture 18 Picture 19 Picture 20 Picture 21 Picture 22 Picture 23 Picture 24 You can see how well the new screen fits in the old hole here. Picture 25 The holes where the buttons were, will relocate them somewhere else. Picture 26 Picture 27 Here's the naked screen. Picture 28 Damn stanley knives are dangerous! Picture 29 And my ghetto plaster... Picture 30 And my new pride & joy! Picture 31 Picture 32 Picture 33 Picture 34 Picture 35 Picture 36 Picture 37 Picture 38 Me, ready to rob a bank to fund the project! Picture 39 Hehe, just kidding, its my sanding booth... Picture 40 ...which just so happens to be my girlfriend's bath! Picture 41 Got the 1st coat of paint on the shell now. Picture 42 Picture 43 Picture 44 Still lots of primer showing so a few coats to go. Picture 45 Picture 46 Picture 47 Picture 48 Picture 49 Picture 50 Picture 51 Picture 52 Finally, the screen is mounted inside the front! Picture 53 The screen's buttons from the front being relocated out of the back. Picture 54 Picture 55 Picture 56 Picture 57 Picture 58 Picture 59 Picture 60 The new power button... Picture 61 ...that sits behind this. Picture 62 The reverse of the front panel. Picture 63 Picture 64 The fan's mounting holes match up almost perfectly with the speaker's existing ones! Picture 65 View from the front, will be hidden by the speaker grille. Picture 66 Dremel'd floppy cable which is soldered to the other end of the power switch. Picture 67 Inside the sub Picture 68 Picture 69 Picture 70 The 'modded' screwdriver. its sooo ghetto! Picture 71 Picture 72 Picture 73 Finally, after using almost a whole charge of the dremel the internal's are removed. Picture 74 The panel behind the door on the front housing the hidden power isolator and USB ports. Picture 75 The internals of the subwoofer's connections Picture 76 The mess in my GF's living room. Picture 77 The slot for CDs/DVDs. black bits are marked pen which I used to hide it a little before I sanded some more. Picture 78 The stealthy grille for the speakers. Picture 79 The sounds system liberated from it's enclosures ready for testing. Picture 80 The sub-woofer (and tweeter above) mounted to the chassis. Picture 81 Tweeter on other side. Picture 82 Optical drive mounted behind slot with ghetto mounting system. Picture 83 Breaking into the power transformer for the speakers. Picture 84 Wasn't the easiest task but dremel to the rescue once again. Picture 85 Hot glue fortehwin! now ready for mounting Picture 86 My home-brewed mobo tray. Picture 87 The underside of said tray. Picture 88 Tray mounted in base of the chassis Picture 89 Insulating the screws from the underside of the mobo Picture 90 But still have the ability to access the screws! Picture 91 Everything mounted. needs some tidying up done on the cabling etc. Note the HDD mounting system (though its a bit hard to see). Picture 92 Another internals pic showing the mess inside. Picture 93 The PSU, Sub and sound control circuits. Picture 94 Fired it up and holy s***! It works!! Picture 95 Trailer Park Boys fortehwin!! Picture 96 The place hasn't gotten any tidier. I really need a garage for this kinda thing... Picture 97 Picture 98 Picture 99 Fellow forumite's lovely 'modification' of my picture Picture 100 Money-Shot 1 Money-Shot 2 Money-Shot 3 Money-Shot 4 Money-Shot 5 Money-Shot 6
Thanks guys. It was colour, must've been one of the first!! I'm wondering if my girlfriend is a little confused with dates though. Were colour TVs even available back then? Ah well, it'll be colour for sure soon! As soon as I work out the whole media centre software counundrum...
Interesting idea, I can't wait to see this mod in progress. Why not try to find a similar sized speaker (car speaker?) as the one the TV had, and build/buy a simple amplifier so the TV can run independently of any external sound equipment? Sure, there are the ones that will come with the LCD TV, but they're almost ALWAYS grossly underpowered, and the built-in amps are barely capable of powering piezo buzzers, let alone full range speakers!
I was planning to use a 2.1 PC speaker setup and modify it so that it gets switched on with the rest of the kit. I have a Creative 4.1 setup I plan to use in 2.1 mode in this. Kinda worried about magnetic interference if I plonk the sub and the sattelites inside the TV shell too.
LMAO!! OK, my mrs and I took our large paper sheet with the size of the hole for the screen drawn on it to PC world last night. Holding the sheet up to the monitors on display it seems we'll need a 20" 4:3 LCD. That won't be cheap...
Hi oasked, don't I know you from someplace? Yeah, I'll be a bit more careful than my usual cavalier attitude as it'll be my girlfriend's money buying the parts...
hehe.. opening up those old thing is like opening up an ancient tomb..a travel in time to unreveal the secrets of the past 70's. hehe good luck /GNU
OK, I think a Samsung Syncmaster SM203B screen will fit perfectly. Problem is, I can't get exact measurements of the screen size without the stand. Anyone know where to get the exact measurements of the visiblw screen area, size of the screen with housing (without the stand) and where to get one as cheap as poss? I'll start another thread with this questions in...
Dont worry about magnetic interferances from what i know, speakers have sheilding in their cases, besides how many people sit a sub right next to their rig? (i do and no ill effects so far). If you are removing the speakers from their cases, im sure there are ways to sheild them from the rest of the parts. And if you have a 4.1 system, why not use them? Mod the sattelite speakers with some longer cables, and re-route connections for them from the back of the sub (my speaers at least) to the back of the TV box. Worst case scenario - you dont use them, and its a 2.1 box. Best case - 4.1 instead of 2.1... and you win the lottery... I personally would be more concerned about virations from the sub than interfearance... but thats why my sub is sitting on a 4" piece of foam
the screen size is the diagonal of the screen, so if you know the aspect ratio (4:3 unless its widescreen, then its 16:9 (i think)), and you know the diagonal, some algebra should be able to figure it out... however after a few hours studying for my calc II exam later this week, i care not to think about math for the rest of the day.
Good point. I was planning to take the speakers out of their cases but if I leave them in, they should be fine. Hadn't thought of potential problems with vibration though, will need to think about some kinda vibration dampening... The old screen ratio is 4:3 and I know that the width of the hole I need to fill is 44.5cm. Can't remember the height but I'd assume its about 33.3cm by using the ratio. I think that Samsung is gonna be a pretty good fit...
I think the best option might be to make a cardboard template and visit a local computer store with lots of monitors. You will look like a mad man holding it up to each monitor, but in the end it will be worth it. And dont neccesarily buy the monitor from the store... newegg it or something
Hehe, that's exactly what we did. Unfortunately, not many non-widescreen 20" screens there, in fact, only one. That's the only reason I know 20" is about the right size. The CRT is out of the case now but its still sitting in my living room. Gonna bin it soon.