Build Advice Should I upgrade or build new?

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  1. xrob

    xrob What's a Dremel?

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    Hi,

    I've not really played games for well over 10 years now, got the urge to start playing again since we're in this lock down.

    I installed CS:GO, want to play a few others like battlefield warzone too but not having fibre in my area its taking multiple days to download the 90GB.

    Anyway, hit a hurdle already, i'm having to run CS:GO at 720p with everything set to low and get about 130fps.

    I built my PC about 8 years ago, spec is following;

    Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 SE
    Gigabyte Z77-DS3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard
    Couple of i think corsair 100GB

    Just wondered if this CPU/MOBO is still sufficient and i can get away with only upgrade my graphics card? Was looking at perhaps a GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER? although i need to check it will fit in my case.

    Alternatively just order a new computer, something like this?
    https://wired2fire.co.uk/product/predator/

    Can't really be bothered to build it myself.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. xrob

    xrob What's a Dremel?

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    Haha yes, i meant COD was getting confused with Battlefield 1942 which i used to play, don't know why.

    Thanks for the link, amazingly it says my computer is fine for CS:GO, when i ran it on anything more the low settings i was getting like 50FPS, if that, felt terrible.

    Says graphics card needs sorting for COD.

    Guess i can try a graphics card first.

    Cheers
     
  3. Bloody_Pete

    Bloody_Pete Technophile

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    I found when I upgraded to a GTX1080 it did massively improve things, but I was running that same CPU and it would cause massive frame drops and lag spikes. If you can aford it I'd grab a new system, as I'm guessing the rest is getting fairly aged now too. Swap the CPU for a Ryzen 3600 and that makes it £1120 :)
     
  4. Vault-Tec

    Vault-Tec Green Plastic Watering Can

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    Yup I am with you.

    The last BIOS update released for that motherboard was in 2013. So you may even run into issues using a new GPU like that but YMMV.

    If you can afford a new PC get one.
     
  5. Osgeld

    Osgeld Minimodder

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    upgrade the video card, it will do most games at high or starting to tap ultra for a couple bills, a 2060 super is silly for 1080 gaming, get like a 5600XT or 1660 super at most

    I run a RX570 at 1080 on a 75 hz screen and things like Shadow of the Tomb Raider get below 60hz but never below like 40 with darn near ultra settings ...and that was a free card from warranty upgrade last year at the death of mining ... so it would have cost me as much as what I suggested, CPU power and RAM speed are insignificant in modern games
     
  6. Bloody_Pete

    Bloody_Pete Technophile

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    Its silly now, it won't be silly in 5 years time.
     
  7. Vault-Tec

    Vault-Tec Green Plastic Watering Can

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    It won't be 5 years. The new consoles release this winter and the dev cycle for these newer games started ages ago.
     
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  8. Osgeld

    Osgeld Minimodder

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    ok fine, to handle those awesome one room upscaled 720p games you need a i9 10 series and dual 2080ti's its the only way (meanwhile you can spend 200 bucks on a graphics card and run more or less just fine and in 5 years have to suffer though maybe 50 fps graphics on almost ultra)

    The mentality of possibly dropping a frame making a game completely unplayable is a fairly recent thing. Most games play just fine, and if your going from a GT560 and a 720p and just now wanting to get back into some games I wouldn't go nuts first thing ... games haven't changed that much, they just talk more and add more smoke on screen
     
  9. Bloody_Pete

    Bloody_Pete Technophile

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    Wow, bit of a overload here. The OP said he had to run at 720p, doesn't mean they want to. And the OP was meantioning wanting then to run games at a high frame rate. The OP then suggested a system, which shows their budget and wants. Sure, they could skimp on the GPU now, but what would be the point if they have the budget for it? They'll only have to replace it faster.
     
  10. spolsh

    spolsh Multimodder

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    I kind of agree with Osgeld here, a decent 1080p capable GPU won't cost the earth and can be moved over to a new rig if CPU is still a problem.

    Get a GPU, play games, decide if you're enjoying it enough to upgrade anything else. Next year or the year after (whenever the rest of the system is slowing things down too much), then get a new PC (sans GPU as that'll probably still be fine for some 1080p gaming).
     

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