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Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Votick, 12 Aug 2011.

  1. David

    David μoʍ ɼouმ qᴉq λon ƨbԍuq ϝʁλᴉuმ ϝo ʁԍɑq ϝμᴉƨ

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    No idea on pricing, or how they'll implement pricing.

    PLEASE, no subscription model! Although, iirc, Linus was talking about some kind of fixed fee, with security updates. I don't sub to LTT any more so I don't know if he's discussed this further in the last year or so.

    I'm happy to pay for decent software, i just don't like being gouged or milked.

    I happily pay for a standalone DSM OS, but it's not even remotely likely that Synology will ever separate that from their own hardware.
     
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  2. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    Hexos is basically TrueNAS Scale with a skin on top.

    Also sure i've seen that logo before...

    EDIT:

    [​IMG]
     
  3. David

    David μoʍ ɼouმ qᴉq λon ƨbԍuq ϝʁλᴉuმ ϝo ʁԍɑq ϝμᴉƨ

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    It's foundation is TrueNAS, it's says that right on the webpage - it's a bit early to dismiss it as a skin though.
     
  4. Byron C

    Byron C I was told there would be cheesecake…?

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    I don't mind paying for features, so long as they're worth it, but yeah - a subscription model can absolutely do one. Though if they're using/forking TrueNAS Scale or Core then they'll have a bunch of open source licensing requirements to comply with anyway. There's a number of licenses in use it seems, my quick scan revealed both BSD-3 and GPL3.

    I haven't seen it mentioned on any LTT video in a while, but if anything comes up in the next few days I'll try to TL;DW/DR it.

    If it makes the configuration, setup, and use easier then I'm still all for it.

    I generally know what I'm doing with Linux, but there's a lot of TrueNAS Scale options/configuration I've had to research because the UI doesn't always do a very good job of explaining things. If you installed Linux Mint on a PC for someone who only has basic knowledge of using a computer then they'll be able to find their way around easily; TrueNAS Scale kinda needs you to know what you're doing in many ways, especially if you want to set up things like ZFS pools.
     
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  5. Idioteque

    Idioteque Telephasic Mongoose

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    I can agree with that, I've been using TrueNAS Core since it was FreeNAS 8.x and the learning curve is steep with specific hardware requirements abound! Admittedly I made some missteps initially but the community was always so helpful and I've obtained some really useful knowledge and good practices that's stayed with me going forward.

    This HexOS should ideally strike a delicate balance between education and ease-of-use, else users may find themselves losing a lot of data due to bad practices or ignoring warnings.

    I've really learned to love certain features of FreeBSD like its efficiency, stability and most especially jails and their automatic provisioning of resources. Unfortunately it doesn't seem long for this world, I'm fairly certain the upcoming TrueNAS core 13.3 will be the final version. Bah.

    I've since relented and purchased a new more modern server and 15 bay disk shelf to arse around with TrueNAS Scale until I've truly got up to speed with Linux and dockers and bears, oh my.
     
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  6. Byron C

    Byron C I was told there would be cheesecake…?

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    I went straight to Scale because Linux is a lot more familiar to me. My only real experience with *BSD was pfSense, and I found it quite picky when it came to hardware requirements.

    I don’t think the UI for Scale is drastically different from Core, but I haven’t really seen much of Core.
     
  7. creative

    creative 500rwhp

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    signed up for the beta... well, submitted my email. lol

    I love unraid. incredibly easy to get up and running and has been solid as a home server. Truenas wasnt too hard to setup in a VM on one of my play servers but I havent "used" it as such as I havent needed to thanks to Unraid

    Its always fun playing with new software though!
     
  8. Idioteque

    Idioteque Telephasic Mongoose

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    The UI is pretty much identical, with a few extra features and omissions. I just have no clue of the world of dockers and other intricacies of Linux just yet. I'm sure I'll do a crash course when I've a spare weekend!
     
  9. meandmymouth

    meandmymouth Multimodder

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    No matter how much I say I'm done with new hardware I still find myself going 'well if I bought this, then I could do this'. It's been a while since I was like this with the gaming rig. I'm now going back to thinking about getting proper rack to shove everything in to.

    Currently I'm toying with the idea of getting 3 Minisforum NAB6 lite machines and doing a proper high availability cluster. I have a problem, I really do.
     
  10. creative

    creative 500rwhp

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    Ha... same! Then I spot a bargain whilst I am trying to decide what to do with my unraid box. Its started to throw a few errors and issues which is leading me to think its hardware related. Toying with moving it to one of my R710's and attaching the 2x24 bay jbods I have for all the storage! :D

    I already had the big jbod that holds 3.5" disks, but just picked up a fully populated 2.5" version with 900gb SAS drives which i could turn into a 20tbish cache setup.... just waiting for cables to arrive...
    I do have an emc 24 bay jbod in the rack already not hooked up which I may get onto the hunt for drives and turn that into an SSD storage as well.. but cant decide, its currently fully populated with 72gb fast SAS drives.. lol
     
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  11. David

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    I had a moment of clarity the other day, when I was looking into kubernetes clusters and I just stopped , with the realisation I really don't need a fast storage NAS, a main NAS, a backup NAS And three further tiers of USB backup, nevermind a K cluster.

    I mean, I have a pc, a backup pc, a low power pc, a laptop, two "backup" laptops, a tablet (which I never use), a backup tablet (which hasn't been switched on this year) and on it goes.

    I need to shed some gear.
     
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  12. meandmymouth

    meandmymouth Multimodder

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    I'm a sucker for a bargain. Just how many drives do you have in those JBODs?

    I have this realisation every so often but it never seems to stick. I could have an incredible homelab with half the gear I currently have. 2/3 mini PCs, DS923+ with the 10GbE add on and a 2.5GbE/10GbE switch and boom, mini monster homelab. But noooooooo, I have to have a truenas server, a pie cluster, more mini PCs and of course the big rig and my laptop.

    Hmmm, that's got me thinking again now...
     
  13. creative

    creative 500rwhp

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    they are all populated.. so 72 drives in the jbods. Just drives I had kicking around and usually about 1tb drives. All my large 4, 8tb drives are in the servers. I think a visit to my ewaste guy is in order soon to see how many 4+tb drives or SSD's I can get for a case of beer.. :D
     
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  14. creative

    creative 500rwhp

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    well the new 24 bay jbod cables turned up... so just putting it through testing on my test rig to make sure everything gets recognised and then to work out how to fit it in my rack...

    [​IMG]

    Im going to need a bigger rack I think.. lol
     
  15. Cookie Monster

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    I've just bought a Terramaster F2-212 for day to day backup which will live on my desk. It's busy sorting itself out with 2 x 4tb WDs and then I'll have a decent document back up.

    While there were better options out there all the YouTube reviews pointed to this being a nice little unit for backup purposes. They all said it fell down a bit when you start running Docker this, JellyFin that, etc. But I'll not be doing any of that so I hope I should be good. If I like it, I think I might get a 4bay version to live in my network cabinet.

    Now I just need to sort out all my various backups spread over several external drives and pull my Microserver running TrueNAS to bits.

    [​IMG]
     
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  16. Gunsmith

    Gunsmith Maximum Win

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    ok so dumb question re: racks, im building a rack to be a central hub to hold all the computery tech around the house but I'm scratching my head regarding rails/trays. how the **** are you supposed to secure the ears to the rack if part of the U is taken up by the rail/tray? the overlap is making it hard for the screws to reach the cage nuts, do i need biger screws or am i doing something dumb?
     
  17. yuusou

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  18. RedFlames

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    Deez rack nuts?
     
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  19. Cookie Monster

    Cookie Monster Multimodder

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    A 4 bay Terramaster F4-210 popped up on eBay for £150, so it was rude not to get it. The added bonus is that it's silver and will match all the Ubiquiti things in my cabinet. It's plugged in with 2 x 4tb WD Reds and syncing drives as I type. Dare I say I may not need to spend any more money on PC things for a while?

    I feel given the other homelab threads, I might have to make one once I've cleaned up.

    [​IMG]
     
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  20. meandmymouth

    meandmymouth Multimodder

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    [​IMG]

    Tidier lack rack than it used to be.
     

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