Ok, so I've had problems with both power supplies and heating for my shuttle, and have decided to move my parts to a mid-tower case so I can use my 420W PSU, and a new Jet fan. The only problem I have thought of with this upgrade is if my small shuttle motherboard will fit into a mid-tower case. Obviously the problem isn't the size, its the screw locations. Does anybody have any idea if the screw locations are the same or not? Thanks a lot, ~psyphen
no offense, but thats a complete waste of a shuttle! Being a previous shuttle owner I'd suggest sorting out your problems, cos there really shouldn't be any. Shuttle cooling is just about the best air cooling on the market. The heatpipes work great. If you still intent on moving back to atx, I'd suggest selling the shuttle and buying yourself a decent mobo that has some expandability. Depending on what model shuttle you have, you should be able to get a top spec mobo with the money you'd get.
What exactly are your heat and PSU problems? If you illustrate them in detail, someone will more than likely be able to help . Also, what spec you running?
Well right now, i have a P4 2.53GHz (not overclocked), and it doesnt have a fan, just the heatsink that the model comes with. Currently, it's running at about 52c idle, and that is really hot. My second problem and reason to switch to a larger computer is because there are no larger power supplies than 250W that can easily fit into my case. Those two problems, I thought, would be most easily solved (with my low budget) by getting a new case that comes with a 420W PSU instead of a 200W. I know that they sell a 250W upgrade, but that still is not enough.
Why do you need a bigger PSU? I have a SB-75G2, P4 3.2Ghz Extreme Edition, 1Gb of Corsair XMS with the LED's on it, a 250Gb SATA drive, Pioneer DVR-106, Audigy 2, and a Radeon 9800 Pro 256Mb and some laser LED's and have no power problems what so ever, my rails stay steady at load and idle. If your P4 is that hot id check you thermal paste, make sure the ICE is sitting right, clear the ICE grill and fan so no dust on them Nikumba
My cpu is 50C idle and ive just installed an sp-97. Waste of money eh when my coolermaster cheap cooler gave about the same.
So what are you gonna do with that shuttle case? Would you be willing to give it away/sell/haggle? -Rob
Well my graphics card has a requirement of 300W (the case im looking at has 420W PSU), as it says, and i can see it start to lag a bit after I have played it for a while. All in all, I think that I would be better off with a big case, since, as I said, I want to keep my computer safe temp-wise, AND i want to possibly overclock my CPU and GPU, which would obviously require both better cooling and more power. And yes, I am willing to sell my old case WITH a motherboard if the price is enough to buy another motherboard.
Why? My SB75G2 kept my 2.4GHz at 3.2GHz at a steady 45C under load and 41C idle. I think those temps are reasonable.
I'm not sure that's as true of the newer models, but I'll go with you on that. I only had to up the FSB on my overclock and it was fine . Also, what about an external PSU? I know it might be stupid considering it would add to the size, but I've seen plenty of people do it successfully and it has been hidden. I get the feeling you're not really interested in the Shuttle though.
Sorry mate, but thats complete crap. The newer shuttles, even as old as the SN45G have more than enough overclocking features. The SN45G that I've just sold to my dad ran my Barton 2500-M at 2.4ghz perfectly happily for months. So precisely what is limited about that? Sorry mate, but it sounds to me like you've never used a shuttle in your life, let alone owned one.
Ok, maybe the newer ones have more OC options... So your telling me that a shuttle has the same OC options as a normal ATX mobo. I think not, yes shuttle a mobo has some OC possiblity but not as much as a regular mobo. Fine if you think that just upping the FSB is fully OCing a system. Really so whats this?
Anyway back to the original question. No a shuttle mobo won't fit in the standard ATX/mATX screw locations. Though it wouldn't be too hard to fit new screw holes if you have a drill and tap set. You can easily use an external PSU in a shuttle, just take out the shuttle PSU and feed the wires through the gap it left. Depends if you want it to be neat or not really.
I've decided to go with the bigger case, since I find it would be the easiest, and since I am planning on buying a new motherboard soon. I'll find a way to rig up the Shuttle mobo to fix (are you sure it wont fit? the case supports mini ATX cases... and isn't that what shuttle mobos are?), until I get the new motherboard. @Simpsonsnet: You could be a little more polite . I found that the average idle temp for my CPU is 53c. There is NO way im going to even attempt to overclock with that idle speed. My stress speeds I'm sure have reached 70c if not higher while not OC'd. I already bought the new case and a new cooling fan, since I decided that would be the most cost-efficient way for me to fix this problem (would fix 3 things: PSU problem, CPU cooling problem, ability to upgrade a LOT easier [I didn't have many PCI slots in my Shuttle mobo]). //EDIT: I just checked on the Shuttle website; It says "Small Form Factor." All I care about is that it'll align correctly with the back panel and the PCI openings in the case, in which it does if I place it right. Until I get that new mobo, I'll find a way of holding it in place .
