Looking for a single slot, black PCB nvidia card to run PhysX from independently. Any idea if this will cut it with modern games running PhysX like WarFrame? http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-...-96-cores-2x-dvi-mini-hdmi-plus-free-torchlig
He is right - you'll need something upwards of a 560 to get decent framerates with PhysX turned on. How hard is it to get it running with an AMD card?
Its really hard from what iv heard but wouldn't know where to start with it. doesn't your system just need a nvidia GPU present to enable it. Sure a lower end GPU cant handle PhysX on its down? everything else will be done by my spanking new 280X
I've got a 460gtx hawk you can have for money. Not sure if that would do? Sorry: edit - not much money you can have it for.
Whilst ymmv, i've had consistently higher frame rates with a single slot 460 dedicated to PhysX @ 2048x1536 - paired originally with a 580 & then a Titan. (i got the latter for much the same price as a 780 was/cheaper than a 780Ti is, rather than being that rich/foolhardy) Okay, i can't speak for WarFrame (never heard of it tbh), but it's certainly been the case with, for example, the 1st 2 Akham games & Borderlands 2 & stuff... Yeah, every so often i've had a look to see if there's a faster single slot card but, other than the odd announcement where the card simply cannot be found, i can find nothing better.
Using PhysX with and AMD card must now just be a case of installing the Nvidia display drivers and PhysX, then uninstalling the display driver (though it probably isn't necessary to uninstall the display driver). Is that the KFA2 one? That must be rarer than rocking horse poo!
That's the card - sold as the Razor. Yeah, i picked it up 2nd hand for ~£85 in mid-2011 - which was what the double slots were going for on eBay at the time so was certainly a fair price... New, i think they were still ~£185-90 at the same time; if you could find one of course. For myself, whilst i could swap that & my raid card (to maintain 16x 8x 8x) & stick in a better double slot card, the h/s on the raid card gets a little too toasty for my liking - so prefer to run it with an exhaust fan underneath... Lack of space between the bottommost pcie slot & the psu to stick anything else in between - & need to run cabling through the top psu position for the fans on the external 480 rad on that machine so couldn't securely mount a psu there. Maybe i'll rethink things on the next build. & just relooking (to make sure that the info was correct), the fastest single slot card that i could find was a Sparkle 570 - but there's never been any indication that they went on sale, so my assumption is that it never got past the concept card stage. So, with single slot NVidia cards, i 'think' that Razor is the best that can be gotten.
Well it is only b/ming at 1080p, it's not using any kind of standardised testing method to ensure that either the main or PhysX cards have the same load between tests, & in the 5th comment then the poster states that trying a 640 gave rise to stuttering (he/she isn't talking about the 550Ti - the guy doing the testing has clearly misread things in the 6th post). [NB whilst obviously these tests are looking at forcing the CPU to do PhysX, it's also worth looking at this as it demonstrates very clearly that the scene you choose in BL2 will have a significant effect on the comparative performance of using an underpowered PhysX processor (again obviously the CPU in this instance)... ...& there's no suggestion in your link that it wasn't the more simple scenes that were tested - certainly the first test in that was definitely in an undemanding area.] Now, ignoring the first 2 (& the bit in square brackets), obviously i've not used a 640, but using my 460 (which, from recollection, performs akin to a 650) then it's certainly stutter free @ 2048x1536... ...& my understanding is that stuttering in this scenario is caused by the primary card(s) being bottlenecked by too slow a PhysX card - in the same way as games which allow CPU PhysX can stutter if the CPU's too slow in comparison to the GPU. So, given that your 280X isn't exactly the slowest card in the world, it may well be that you'll be buying an underpowered card if you go for that & get stuttering as a trade off - esp in games with more taxing PhysX usage. Now that may or may not include Warframe, but it would be reasonable to expect that PhysX will become more demanding over time so you may be limiting the longevity even if it's good enough for that one game. it's your money if you want to give it a go of course.
If you can find one, Colorful has a single slot GTX650 ti : http://hi-techdaily.blogspot.fr/2013/01/colorful-announces-igame-geforce-gtx.html
Ttbomk the 9800GT is faster than at least the single slot version(s) (is there an alt other than the EVGA one?) of the 640 for PhysX as, whilst it's got less than a third of the cuda cores the 112 it has should still be plenty &, more importantly, it's got double the memory bandwidth. That said, it's all about what you're pairing it with since, as mentioned, too slow a PhysX card can hold back a high end main gfx card... You don't want the PhysX calcs to be slower than the rending of the primary gfx card otherwise you'll be lowering the fps. All the comments that i can immediately see about using the 9800 are either old or are being paired with much slower cards than the OP's... ...still, as it looks as though a 2nd hand 1GB one shouldn't cost more than about £10-15 on eBay with a minimum amount of patience then it would be a much safer bet to try out than dropping the best part of £70 on a 640. i did notice that earlier myself, but couldn't see anything other than the Jan 2013 pre-announcements for it. if the OP could find one for sensible money then it'd obviously be great, but my guess is that it went the way of the 570.
They certainly sell stuff to China & Korea & the like, but whether they only sell to Asian markets...??? You may well be (mostly) correct. i don't know of anywhere that's apparently reliable to source stuff in China from other than DX.com - & they don't stock it.
thanks for your input PocketDemon, most appreciated, ill hold off on the EVGA 640. Ill keep a look out for a single slot 650ti, that one from china looks perfect but it will never come to the EU
No worries - though i've tried searching using the regional versions of Google for Korea, Hong Kong & Japan (as Colorful sell in at least these markets) but could find nothing. Yeah, there were also announcements over the years for single slot 470, 480, 670 & 680 cards from Galaxy (aka KFA2 in the UK), but again could find nothing beyond the initial 'oooh look at this' type things from various sites - certainly nothing on any of their official sites... ...& i think there 'may' have been a variant of the EVGA 480 Hydro that was single slot - again announcements, but can only see immediate evidence of a double slot one being sold. i did find the 460 Razor (apparently) available new from an etailer in Denmark, but at ~£215 then unless there's all the money in the world... What's the reason for not being able to use a double slot card btw? Well it's just crossed my mind that 'if' it's simply down to there being insufficient mounting slots on the case (can't think what else to call them), rather than there being something directly below that's in the way, EVGA make a single slot bracket to replace the double on (at least some of their) 470/480/570/580 cards. Yeah, i've no idea about the compatibility with any particular EVGA card but this may provide an alt solution for you - well, any of those 4 cards should be more than fast enough for you. Or, if you're water cooling, you may be able to combine it with a block to reduce the depth - i may have a look at that myself at some point. [Edit] Based on this product description from OCUK, it seems as though the last idea may be viable with a larger range of reference design cards... ...if, of course, you can physically fit it in & there's no issue with the air exhaust from the card's shroud.
its how i have my main GPU and Sound card installed. I don't want anything blocking the airflow of my R9 280x so im reluctant to install it on the adjacent PCI-E plot, but instead install it below on the 3rd PCI-E slot at the bottom, but my Xonar card is in the very last bottom PCI slot making it so i can only fit a single slot card in. So it must be a fully single slot card, not a single slot mount but with a cooler that will protrude into my Xonar
Couldn't you put the Xonar in the pci slot below the 2nd pcie one/above the 3rd? That'd still leave you with a slot gap; though obviously not the 2 you have atm. Otherwise, whilst the 3rd pcie slot is (electrically) 4x, this should be fine for PhysX.
When I upgraded from dual 9800GTX+ to a single 560TI, I found the difference in having one of the 9800GTX+'s for PhysX was negligible at best. Occasionally better, sometimes worse. I think Fermi or Kepler would be the way to go, even though Arkham Asylum seems to be having issues with the scarecrow scenes with Kepler.
