Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by CardJoe, 23 Nov 2009.
Removed all the posts by people who cannot conduct themselves in a civil way.
Given that the average keyboard is five times dirtier than a toilet seat and a laptop is basically a keyboard within a box I would hope Apple provides suitable protection for all repair staff: If this is so then residuals from cigarette smoke should not be a problem, if this is not the case then perhaps Apple repair staff should consider suing the company.
Of course the study I've linked to could be biased and sensationalised. Heh, I guess so long as ignorance satisfies an important someone's agenda there is little hope that the masses will be educated to tell FUD from fact.
That would be one of mine then, I was also gonna mention COSHH, nicotine isn't on the register as far as I'm aware
This is stupid. I'm NOT a smoker and regularly repair friends machines. There is no real difference between the dust in the average machine and a smokers dust. Just don't breath the **** in either way and your fine!
This is idiotic and smoking should have no effect on your warranty's validity.
It is. But only if you're dealing with it in its raw form - COSHH states that in the air you should only be around 1.5mg per meter cubed every 15 minutes. Not to mention that it passes through the skin, so again in its pure form you can easily OD if you spill it on your hands.
COSHH doesn't apply - it's more about the fact that smoke and tabacco can easily block vents and fans. But by that argument, will Apple not RMA products from dirty student bedrooms? Must I proove I own and use a vacuum cleaner to buy an Apple product? What if I live near an ocean so the salty air increases the speed of rust? Or in a very humid/hot country where it's easier for it to overheat? What about pubic hair - how many laptops do you think are thrown on beds or clothes or used for looking at porn? Where does it draw the line?
As much as I hate smoking, boo bloody hoo if Mr. Apple engineer has to deal with dirty Macs. Tough ****, jobs have downsides.
It's fine to do, but not if you don't have a provision for it in the contract. Apple should add that provision, then stop doing it for new computers sold.
Tell that to Clarkson and co
But on topic, yeah we all know that smokers make for dirty filthy computers (im an ex 40 a day guy) but fact is computers can get dirty and if we allow apple to get away with this, what next? Void the warranty if you have pets, just in case the hair clogs the system?
Erm ... yeah.
What are you on about? You want the computer companies to replace and/or fix your stuff when you clog it with animal hair ... what about when your 5 year old fills it with water? Why don't you just open it up and fill it with cement and take that in to be fixed.
Read my post again dude!
ack. sry. :|
My computer started playing up the other day, graphic anomalies. I opened her up, cleaned out the cat hair and away she went. I don't expect Apple/Dell or anyone else to do that for me, and if it breaks then that is my fault and they would be right to tell me to get lost!
I actually got a new system that way. I was swapping a graphics card and my lad decided to pass me his can of coke and dropped it into the case. Fortunately, it was a PCWorld refurb job so I took out the protection and they completely replaced the machine. This was about 8 years ago but still my 5 year old at the time filled mine with Coke! and it was replaced! Not exactly the same thing but AshT, it does happen!
These repair techs aren't balanced for smoke?
Yet more discrimination for smokers.
Fine! I'm just waiting for someone else to say they've filled their machine with cement and had that replaced and then I may as well give up!
ehh what doesnt void your warranty now and days ~_~ either way a company will find a reason to blame you and void your warranty. Like something else is that most warranty are void the moment you take your laptop to another country but a lot of people dont know that either.
Landy's point is valid and this whole arguement that there are shaps inside the computer that can poke through the latex gloves doesn't hold any water. Last I checked, when you clean surfaces inside of computers you generally uses highly pure alcohol and cotton swabs. There should be little if any actually contact between a glove and a computer component aside from touching it to move it. Fact is Apple just doesn't want to waste time and money cleaning computers.
You honestly think a computer company should clean ... and more importantly to this story FIX your computer for you when it fails to work due to overheating through no fault of the parts used to manufacture said computer?
agreed you caused the damage to your system and that typically is not covered so it makes sense to me.
People smart enough to use computers are still smoking?!?! WTF.
If you smoke or eat by your computer the chances are high that you will in some way damage your gaming rig.
I place any drinks I am imbibing on the floor on a tray, BELOW the level of the KB.
Smoking is just moronic and will lead to cancer and a poor social life.
Go work out, get muscular and fit, then you will not want to pollute your body (or your poor computer!)
Yours in Fit Plasma,
The world is crazy, the more developed we become the crazier we become.
Glad I dont have any apple products even though im a non-smoker. More reason to avoid an apple ifthey make these silly reasons to avoid fixing their crap.
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