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News Sony and Panasonic team up for 300GB optical discs

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Gareth Halfacree, 30 Jul 2013.

  1. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Staff Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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  2. BlackMage23

    BlackMage23 RPG Loving Freak

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    DVD is still selling very well. It would be crazy to bring out a new video disc format even in 2 years.
    The Xbox one will help sell blu ray a bit more, but that format still needs a lot more time.
     
  3. Maki role

    Maki role Dale you're on a roll... Staff

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    Maybe not 2 years, but 4-6 years could certainly be a good point at the consumer level. By then 4k will be cost effective enough that it will be hitting mainstream markets. At the same time the new consoles will be showing their age, and Bluray would have fully saturated the market. Also I can't really see broadband speeds and data usage limits being quite suitable for 4k by then for many. I guess those interested in that resolution will already have the Internet to support it, but that won't really promote adoption in the wider audience.
     
  4. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    Maybe i have this wrong but isn't the enterprise end of the market more concerned with long term storage solutions. afaik all optical disc only offer around 50 years of lifetime storage.
     
  5. PCBuilderSven

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    Does anyone still want optical disks? USB flash drives have already hit 1 TB, by the time these are available the price of them will have dropped significantly. Furthermore, they will likely be faster and can be overwritten practically as much as you want. Alternatively just get an external hard drive and you can easily go up to 4 TB.
     
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    Daft attempt to try and make a new cash cow.
     
  7. Cthippo

    Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag

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    It would be nice to have something for long term storage of massive amounts of data. My 1 TB fileserver is getting full but there isn't really any other media I could back it up to. Now multiply that problem by, say, 1000, and you see the issue. You can only back up mechanical hard drives to other mechanical hard drives which are expensive and a pain to store. I would welcome some new media for mass backups.
     
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    damien c Mad FPS Gamer

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    It would be nice to have these now, as when I finally buy a 1TB SSD then I can back up straight to 4 Blu-Ray 300Gb disc's rather than messing around with around 10 100Gb disc's.

    I would do a back up to the net but 1TB would take ages to upload and download again when needed.
     
  9. PCBuilderSven

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    The enterprise market, which these are designed for, already have tape drives that can store 4 TB per cartridge (eg. http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/uk/storage/tape/ts1140/index.html ) , allowing for even the largest hard drives to backed up. For consumers a 1TB external hard drive is around £50, or cloud storage services can be used.
     
  10. faugusztin

    faugusztin I *am* the guy with two left hands

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    300GB optical disc is a joke even now, not in 2 or more years. Anything less than 1TB in a year or so is doomed to death. Sure, 300GB will be a fine media for movie distribution, but that is pretty much all that media could be used for. For audio, even the current BR media is pretty much useless. And for data storage and archiving, 300GB is way too low. One of these disc will equal three 4k movies max (because they will use around 100GB per one 4k movie).
     
  11. MrJay

    MrJay You are always where you want to be

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    Seems like a pointless endeavour to me.

    Probably only every really good for archiving.

    And imagine the cost, Blu Rays are still to expensive in my opinion, even dual layer DVDs are still eyewateringly expensive from high street retailers.

    We use an RDX solution for long term storage at work. 1tb cartridges can be had for £85, they are fast and really robust, can't see a super capacity optical disk replacing that any time soon!
     
  12. Phil Rhodes

    Phil Rhodes Hypernobber

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    Well, yes, archiving. Which is extremely important. No?

    Definitely want this.
     
  13. MrJay

    MrJay You are always where you want to be

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    Yeah if the price and speed is right, there are already quite allot of decent capacity mediums out there.
     
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    I dont see the point, Id rather them wait for 4K films an use BDXL.
     
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    you see, back in the day when 700mb cd's were used for data @ £1 each, and you had to pay £100 for a 2gb hard disc, yes they made sense.
    now these discs would be like £5 each and by that time, it'll be £50 for a 2tb drive.
    Archiving only has to last 10 years till another tech means you can start consolidating again.
    Nowadays, I think optical is only good for write once in the factory.
     
  16. Elton

    Elton Officially a Whisky Nerd

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    What this actually means is that hard drives and optical media in general have not capped out on space.

    The question is how dire the read speeds on these things are. I will have to say, at $10 a disc, or even $3 a disc, 100GB of data for $3 is fantastic value. Slow, but fantastic value. The idea that optical media is dead is actually rather untrue as flash memory is still much more expensive at high densities.

    Discs however are not.
     
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    Yes. Anyone who doesn't want to watch video streams that look like warmed arse will be sticking with high-capacity physical media for the forseeable future. Available broadband bandwidth is increasing, but so to is the size of video files (4k, stereo 3D, HFR, etc) in tandem, and there's the additional wrinke of ISPs capping left and right in an attempt to squeeze more profit without having to spend to upgrade their networks.
     

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