1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

News Sony goofs by showing declining Blu-ray sales

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Da Dego, 7 Sep 2007.

  1. Da Dego

    Da Dego Brett Thomas

    Joined:
    17 Aug 2004
    Posts:
    3,913
    Likes Received:
    1
  2. naokaji

    naokaji whatever

    Joined:
    8 Dec 2006
    Posts:
    1,879
    Likes Received:
    10
    atleast they don't lie about it:naughty:

    the problem is people are most likely scared to dump that much money into the technology and especially with movies being exclusive meaning your pretty much bound to get both or stick with dvd.
     
  3. heir flick

    heir flick Active Member

    Joined:
    2 Feb 2007
    Posts:
    1,045
    Likes Received:
    13
    i like the look of blu-ray but still holding out for multi format players and cheaper prices
     
  4. Mastanives

    Mastanives New Member

    Joined:
    26 Jan 2006
    Posts:
    10
    Likes Received:
    0
    there are a bunch of hd-dvd titles that are hd-dvd and dvd complaint... my parents watched smoking aces on their dvd player the day after i watched it in hd... so i would think early adopters would go the hd route for that feature specifically. i own a ps3 and an hd-dvd player so it matters not to me, but atleast give the little credit where it is due to hd. even if they don't buy an hd-player they could get the hd-version then upgrade later since the format might die but the players will drop in price and they will eventually be able to play the high def version anyways...
     
  5. devdevil85

    devdevil85 New Member

    Joined:
    29 Nov 2006
    Posts:
    924
    Likes Received:
    0
     
  6. ChiperSoft

    ChiperSoft New Member

    Joined:
    27 Aug 2006
    Posts:
    53
    Likes Received:
    0
    Actually, I think it's more likely that people are sitting back and waiting for the HD players to get cheaper. Everyone knows that in another year HD multimedia will be as cheap as standard is today.
     
  7. devdevil85

    devdevil85 New Member

    Joined:
    29 Nov 2006
    Posts:
    924
    Likes Received:
    0
    It makes sense. Most people are not willing to go after something that isn't set in stone. I still think the DVD/HD-DVD thing is kind of idk....impractical, but I guess if it's worth it to people to pay more for a movie now that will allow for HD in the near future then that's their call...I would rather just stick with regular DVD's for now and try to upscale them to 1080i and THEN when a format is declared a winner, that's when I'd get a HD-DVD/Blu-Ray player.....but that's just me like I said, not a generalization of what consumers will probably do.....but I think it's the best decision as right now....for the price atleast...
     
  8. wafflesomd

    wafflesomd New Member

    Joined:
    22 Oct 2005
    Posts:
    1,719
    Likes Received:
    23
    I'm throwing in my own format.

    Awesome-Disc.
     
  9. completemadness

    completemadness New Member

    Joined:
    11 May 2007
    Posts:
    887
    Likes Received:
    0
    I wonder if they tried to put DVD's on that graph too ?

    Of course if they had tried it would have been off the scale :p
     
  10. HourBeforeDawn

    HourBeforeDawn a.k.a KazeModz

    Joined:
    26 Oct 2006
    Posts:
    2,637
    Likes Received:
    6
    I dont really see what is causing such high retail prices for the blu-ray tech, I cant see them costing that much to produce, if they lowered the price they would sell more thus make more, but again I dont know how much it cost to make one so I cant say that the prices are over inflated but given Sony history most of the time they charge 3 times what the item normally is worth minus the PS3 as they are losing money on each system they sell lol.
     
  11. The_Beast

    The_Beast I like wood ಠ_ಠ

    Joined:
    21 Apr 2007
    Posts:
    7,379
    Likes Received:
    164

    that is what I'm doing
     
  12. David_Fitzy

    David_Fitzy I modded a keyboard once....

    Joined:
    8 Jan 2004
    Posts:
    206
    Likes Received:
    2
    The other reason that they're not taking off is that for most people DVD is more than enough. There's no real benefit to HD for a lot of people. DVD offered a huge leap from VHS, Chapters, no-rewinding, extra content, 5.1 audio and smooth playback controls on a format that doesn't degrade with use. Over DVD, HD offers....
    • more dots with more colour - The number of people I've seen at the local tv shop stare in awe ooo-ing and aah-ing at the HD tvs is great except they're playing a regular DVD :rolleyes:
    • lossless audio - come on most people couldn't care less or wouldn't even notice
    • more speakers - like 5.1 wasn't hard enough to arrange in a typical tv room and again a lot of people wouldn't care or notice
    So the entire market consists of enthusiasts, the rich, the must have the latest stuff croud, those who buy whatever the adverts tell them to and that rarest of the rare, people who backup! ;)

    Free (almost) always wins and while not upgrading from DVD is free then I reckon that DVD will be good enough for most people
     
  13. supermonkey

    supermonkey Deal with it

    Joined:
    14 Apr 2004
    Posts:
    4,955
    Likes Received:
    201
    And therein lies the problem, in my opinion. On a decent HD television, with a proper HD source, the picture quality can be stunning. However, as you pointed out, the majority of the consumer market doesn't know anything about HD. They think they know, but they don't.

    I blame part of that on the technical aspects of HD. The two competing formats aren't confusing enough, but then you add the LCD/Plasma war and the 720p/1080i/1080p war and pretty soon consumers are left scratching their heads. When they get confused, they just go to Wal-Mart and buy a DVD player.

    -monkey
     
  14. StephenK

    StephenK Sneak 'em Upper

    Joined:
    21 Dec 2006
    Posts:
    291
    Likes Received:
    2
    I'm planning on getting a HD player as soon as they're a little cheaper. Whether Blu Ray or HD wins the war doesnt really matter that much to me. I've been very impressed by the upconverting feature on a couple of players. The quality you can get from upconverting a dvd seems pretty good from what i've seen. Upconvert capable HD players are mostly much cheaper than upconvert Blu Ray players.
    One of these players will not only allow me to watch my current dvd collection in good quality on my hdtv but if a movie i want is blu-ray only (like the pirates of the carribean movies which are disney) then i'll just by the dvd (and the price of standard dvds will continue to fall) and then upconvert. With HD discs being much cheaper to produce I think the chances of HD winning a price war are very good. Maybe one day I wont be able to buy a standard dvd in the shops anymore but by that time I'm sure either one format will have won or most players will be dual-format.
     
  15. Smilodon

    Smilodon The Antagonist

    Joined:
    25 Mar 2003
    Posts:
    6,244
    Likes Received:
    102
    I hope that blu-ray wins this war just because they have higher data capacity. Problem is that the players are more expensive, and most people go for the cheapest thing (HD-DVD).

    So I'm basically just waiting for the blu-ray lair to do a huge mistake. We all know it will happen, and when it does I'll buy a HD-DVD player.

    (Yay for positive thinking...)

    oh, and I'll probably wait for someone to make a player that doesn't look like utter crap! At least something that have a standard width, so it will fit into my stereo-"rack".
     
  16. completemadness

    completemadness New Member

    Joined:
    11 May 2007
    Posts:
    887
    Likes Received:
    0
    people will probably upgrade to HD as they have to

    If my TV died ATM, id probably upgrade to HD (if the price is right) but currently, there is no need to upgrade, we've only got 1 LCD tv in our house, and the others are CRT - why? because there's no need to replace the CRT's
     
  17. Morphine-Kitty

    Morphine-Kitty Dead account.

    Joined:
    22 Apr 2007
    Posts:
    366
    Likes Received:
    0
    Do they include PS3 games in that graph?
     
  18. DeXtmL

    DeXtmL New Member

    Joined:
    7 Sep 2007
    Posts:
    50
    Likes Received:
    0
    Both are greate! But...

    As they announced the HD-DVD gives you nearly the same quality as Blu-DVD while maintaining a relative low price.
    Price! You know, price is a sensitive topic to those people reside in developing countries and these countries hold a large market.
    These people with a average income may just pay half-day or even one-day work for a blank blu-ray disk.
    You can imagine how a blu-dvd containing the latest Hollywood's film being sold there.
    I think they would not hesitate to support HD-DVD(if they choose to upgrade).
     
  19. ralph.pickering

    ralph.pickering New Member

    Joined:
    6 Apr 2005
    Posts:
    346
    Likes Received:
    0
    The higher capacity of Blu-ray is a moot point - firstly, there's little around that needs that capacity, although I suppose having an entire TV series on one disk would be cool, but secondly the formats are very similar, as I believe they both use the same type of laser and both use MPEG4 / VC1 encoding. It just needs a chip that can decode both formats (which Broadcom already have on the market). So maybe it would be over simplifying things to suggest that if one player can play BR and HDDVD with little in the way of additional hardware, then when the first incarnation of HD-DVD starts looking a little cramped, v2 of the standard could easily increase capacity while still providing backward compatibility for v1 and older players might just need a firmware upgrade to make use of the extra space. Who knows and right now, who cares. I'm still happy with DVD and besides I can't afford a projector that can do 1080p native, so what would I do with a player that has to output that just to justify its huge capacity?
     
  20. Smilodon

    Smilodon The Antagonist

    Joined:
    25 Mar 2003
    Posts:
    6,244
    Likes Received:
    102
    Maybe capacity isn't much of an issue now, but give it a few years and you'll see.

    Just look at a DVD today. 4,7GB isn't much. (which is the only real option, as dual layer disks are overly expensive)
     
Tags: Add Tags

Share This Page