South Park offensive? Who knew!

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  1. Malvolio

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    Did Comedy Central grant the Catholic League its Christmas wish?

    Following the Dec. 7 season finale of South Park, titled "Bloody Mary," the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights slammed the network for its irreverent portrayal of church icons and sought to block the episode from being rebroadcast.

    It appears the group may have met with success. A repeat of the finale was scheduled to air Wednesday night, but was seemingly pulled from the Comedy Central lineup without explanation.

    In the episode, a statue of the Virgin Mary is believed to be bleeding from its rear end, inspiring faithful parishioners to flock from miles around to be healed by the miraculous blood.

    Eventually,
    Pope Benedict XVI is called in to investigate, whereupon he determines that the statue is actually menstruating and thus is nothing special.

    "A chick bleeding out her vagina is no miracle," the pope declares in the episode. "Chicks bleed out their vaginas all the time."



    I don't know, is it really such a bad episode that it'll cause people to stop beliving in christ or the church? Yeah, sure, it may be funny, but isn't this quite close in contrast to, say, a company sueing a TV show because the show portrayed their product badly? After-all, the modern-day Jesus© is more crafted than a box of KD; so one could say that technically the idea/product "Jesus©" could be copy-righted.

    If that was done, then I would say the church have a case.


    Unfortunately I enjoy being able to express my opinions, and make jokes without a religious patrol after me!



    [EDIT]OK, I've just finished watching this (I love torrents), and all's I have to say is: wow. This is most certainly one of the best south park's that they've ever made. It sends an extremely powerful message about the AA and just drinking in general. If you have the opportunity to watch it, definately do. It's piss your pants funny, and filled with insight.

    As well, I've found that a nice bottle of White Zinfandel is quite nice for new-years eve :thumb:[/EDIT]
     
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  2. Skylined

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    They are a bunch of hippies, specially the pope! :hehe:
     
  3. Sgoaty

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    South Park is great if these people are offended they should switch it off
     
  4. linger

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    exactly, but all catholicism is about is power
     
  5. Fiver

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    It's not the first time - Comedy Central said they won't be showing 'Jared has Aides' ever again.
     
  6. speedfreek

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    If you dont want to watch somthing or you get offended by it what do you do? You dont watch it. Its just that simple. Its times like this I wish I had cable.
     
  7. FredsFriend

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    I think that the word you are looking for is Fascist, quite a different thing really.
     
  8. Skylined

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    You need to watch more South Park and listen Master Cartman. ;)
     
  9. alter_ego

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    This has been brought up before, but why do western people think that it is alright to abuse and poke fun at chrisitanity. I do not see South Park episodes entitled "Gay Mohammed", because it is rude, wrong and shows a lack of moral fibre, and this same respect should be shown to Chrisitianity. They should not be free to take the mickey and slander someone who is considered to be special and holy within a religon, especially in what can frankly only be described as a shocking and insensetive way. People who find this sort of thing alright need to seriously consider how out of line their thinking is.
     
  10. J-Pepper

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    The thing is, people are sensitive to different things and in different ways.

    Non-catholics may find it hilarious and catholics find it abusive.

    But there may also be a vice versa where some non-catholics may find it disgusting and some catholics may see the funny side to it.

    I for one am an agnostic and the one thing I really do find offensive is the way that catholics try to 'preach' (or force their own views) onto others ('non-believers'). This carries on to that fact that I find it offensive that the catholic church as deemed this show unacceptable for my viewing pleasure... I don't want some one dictating what is suitable for my viewing, especially if I don't follow their religious beliefs. If they really felt that this portrayed religion is an offensive manner, do what everyone else does and slap a warning or an age certificate on the show.

    Don't cut it because some religious group that doesn't represent everyone decides that it puts the catholics in a bad light.

    Everything has positive and negative publicity, and it's up to the individual to decide for themselves. It's just the fascists in the world that seek to try and remove all traces of the negative publicity and restrict freedom of information.*

    * p.s. that sounds harsh and probably not related to South Park, but from a historical point of view, I find the catholic religion (and most others are guilty too) of using propaganda and mis-information to change public opinion in it's favour despicable.
     
  11. alter_ego

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    The ideals of political correctness are based upon preventing people from saying or doing things which may offend people, for example the word "*****" may not offend a white person, but it will offend a black person, and thus should not be used in or outside of the prescence of a black person. In the same way offensive jokes about someones religon should not be used in or outside the prescence of people of that religon.

    J-Pepper, you say that your agnostic, however people of an agnostic belief also enforce their views upon people through much harsher m,ethods that propaganda, i.e. China or what was the USSR, as certain humans believe that what they believe should be believed by everyone else, however this is the view of the minority rather than the majority, so your comment about Catholics was unjust and mis informed.
     
  12. Malvolio

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    Watch more south park :p They've made fun of just about EVERYTHING. Even the idea that matt and trey only do christian jokes is just silly! They're consistently making fun of jews, blacks, whites, rich, poor, church, state, science, death, life, EVERYTHING.

    Oh, and if you find something offensive, it DOES NOT MEAN I cannot say it. It simply means that you find it offensive, and there-fore, in your micro-world view, it would be polite not to say it. And you know what? In my micro-world view, the slightest mention of somebody having a religion is EXTREMELY offensive to me, as it presents superb stupidity, a complete lack of any self respect, a loathing of one's life, and a need to have something to cling onto.

    But you know what I do? I accept it like I do everything else, I LIVE WITH IT. It is my own personal opinion, and I try my best not to force it onto other people. I mean, hell, if I was going to force it onto people I would just beat them with a bat until they gave up all hope of a "god".




    Oh, and just so I don't offend you, the above was only meant as a half-serious example ;) I only find people who say they're religious to be somewhat offensive :D
     
  13. geek1017

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    I was brought up Catholic.
    I still find South Park very funny.
    Maybe I just wasn't brainwashed enough.
    Damn my parents for letting me read and have opinions.
     
  14. FredsFriend

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    A: So you are against free speech then (moderated speech isn't free speech).
    B: I find it immensely insensitive and disrespectful that religious people always try to convert me to religion, so does this mean that Christians shouldn't be allowed to preach?
    If you remember Christianity has a long history of forcefully inflicting its own views upon other people through war, torture, lies, persecution, and general all round violence. Religion is one of the worst perpetrators of discrimination around IMO, sure its not racial discrimination but in the form of thought crime. I'm sure there was something about casting the first stone.
     
  15. apoogod

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    chill out frances



    for the record nothing is safe from south park, god love them for it
     
  16. Hamish

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    that ep was ****ing gold, south park is awesome, the new series especially imo
    its been less random and more current than the previous series' imo
    not to say the previous series' were bad (my fav ep is in series 5 i think) but this one has been slightly different and all the funnier for it :D
     
  17. alter_ego

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    Thats a pretty idiotic comment, as free speech entitles the person to say what they want as long as it is not deemed to be outwardly offensive to others. I would not be allowed to walk down the road waving signs saying "Black people are criminals", then by your logic I would no longer have free speech. All speech within the western world at least; is moderated speech.
    I am sure that they do not "always" try to convert you, and if that is true, which I doubt, then that it is offensive. I to believe that the church is to in your face evengelistic, but that speaks only for a sector within the faith.
    Freedom of rights means people are free to practise their religon, and if you find that offensive then you are indeed a narrow minded. The degregation of religon is offensive, the practising of it is not, if you do not understand that then your clearly to stupid to hold an argument with.
     
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    The micheal was extracted from your religion... so what?

    Your religion did something far worse and people bash other religions?

    Just because you don't like it... you seek to remove it... seems to hold true in what ever you did, be it other religions, people or cartoons.

    p.s. I don't care how harsh that sounds as I have little time to spend debating a point with narrow minded individuals... sure you are a religious person, but using your religion as a reason to decide what everyone else in the world should or should not watch is just plain wrong. As shown here, everybody seems to love South Park and can accept it's humour for what it is.. a piss-take out of everything in life. Hell, even a fellow catholic said he enjoys it for what it is.
    TBH, grow up... we live in the 21st Century, not the 16th.
     
  19. alter_ego

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    A. I'm not catholic
    B. Say someone took an image of your mum and done the same thing to it, would you not find that offensive, and ask for its removal. It is the same if not worse for catholics who regard mary as holy, so yes I do believe it is fair for it to be removed.
    no **** sherlock :grr:
     
  20. Malvolio

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    OK, dude, seriously, you have NO idea of what free speech is, do you? Free speech DOES NOT MEAN moderated speech, it means: FREE SPEECH. If you damn well want to walk with your sign, THEN WALK WITH IT. Why in the hell should I care? If you get killed because of it, so be it, you were stupid enough to be holding that sign!

    Dude, religious people DEMANDING that content be removed from the general public is a very clear way of forcing me to respect or follow their religion. I don't care who you are, YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL ENOUGH TO CONTROL WHAT I WATCH. If I want to **** up my life, get high on drugs, and kill myself on a binge while watching south park, listening to some cannibal corpse, and chugging down some cheap whisky, WHY CAN'T I? This just doesn't make sense to me. What does it matter to you if I am so stupid as to **** my life up? I think we should embrace this, as it would drastically raise the general intelligence of the populace.

    Dude, if you want to practice your religion (not saying you do, just in general), I have absolutely no issue with it. BUT, in my opinion, which SHOULD NOT effect you directly, anybody who is religious is offensive to me.

    Stop telling me that the virgin marry bleeding out her vagina is offensive, and that your opinion is so holy that it should be respected, then proceed to tell me I'm "to stupid to hold an argument with" simply because of my opinion. And by the way, derogation of religion is not offensive, TO ME, it may be to you, but not here it isn't ;)


    You know what, if somebody took a picture of my mother, put it into a cartoon, and showed pictures of cartoon people brutally raping, stabbing, shooting, and just generally killing her, I would only have to do the sensible thing: TURN IT OFF.

    If somebody finds it funny, why should I have to force them not to watch it?

    Don’t call me narrow-minded when you can’t even get a grasp on a simple concept like turning something off.
     

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