tbreak leaked results a week in advance at least... not good tbh, as for what they can do, I spose they could deny them samples under NDA for the next round of releases. oh and did I cough?
From what I see BigZ the FX53 scores higher over-all...but the +3800 is cheaper; and it diddnt loose by much. Tough decision indeed. *Lucky *******...you and your free stuff* [edit] I think I may have been the first to read the review, i refreshed every 5secs until it popped up [/edit]
very nice review bigZ good job! I do have one complaint however. This review does not feature any processors from socket 754; This is an important thing to take into consideration, as no one knows how these new processors stack up to a 3400+, 3200+, or most notably, 3000+. Before I make any final decision regarding whether or not socket 939 is worth the cost or not I need to figure that out. Is it possible for you to borrow someone's socket 754 CPU and motherboard and do the tests once more? That would clear up some of the most important issues we all have in mind.
As always, there is a very good review at anandtech. Some of the key points. The 3500+ beats the 3400+ in almost all benchmarks, despite being the same speed and having half the cache. As I said in the other thread, moving the athlon 64 range up to unbuffered double width memory controller does very well. 8-ball
"Hey Jason, We don’t deal with AMD directly and don’t have any NDA with them. After clearing this up, please let me tell you that we’ve had the review completed quite a few days ago. The local PR agency for AMD only informed us that the review should be posted on the 1st of June and we’re located in the Eastern part of the world which is quite a bit ahead of EST. Abbas Jaffarali Editor-in-Chief P.S. I would recommend using a less harsh tone when you’re not aware of facts and dealing with someone for the first time. It gets your message across in a better way and might even make you an additional friend." I don't know what to think about that. Can I ask where you (bit-tech staffers) get your stuff to review before it is publicly available? Did those CPU's come from AMD directly? If so, then isn't tbreak basically still guilty of using someone else's NDA (and CPUs) but ignoring that persons agreement with AMD? i.e. If AMD sent me the CPUs under an NDA and I let my friend "Bob" publish a review, I'm guilty of breaking my NDA, and Bob is guilty of lacking basic morals?
Well, they would have had an NDA with someone I would have thought - our CPUs come from AMD UK directly. If the source of the NDA is found (most likely to be found by the photographs of the CPU) then they could be excluded from the next round of samples.... anyway, this comes up every time there is a new bit of kit released, someone goes early somewhere... However, they do say in the following thread that they are under "No Disclosure Agreement", so someone has broken something somewhere as far as I am concerned. http://www.tbreak.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23952 and screenshots just incase they remove it: http://bit-tech.net/images/bigz/tbreak/1.jpg http://bit-tech.net/images/bigz/tbreak/2.jpg http://bit-tech.net/images/bigz/tbreak/3.jpg http://bit-tech.net/images/bigz/tbreak/4.jpg http://bit-tech.net/images/bigz/tbreak/5.jpg http://bit-tech.net/images/bigz/tbreak/6.jpg http://bit-tech.net/images/bigz/tbreak/7.jpg
<side note> to many windows open, and did u doctor the time on those by any chance? Might consider getting me a S939 when the buget chips come out for sale.
I'm still on the rig I was writing the review on, and I haven't "tided" up yet, so there's a shed load of windows open with all of the information that I was using to write the review.
Going to be a while before I jump on this bandwagon, thats unless those nice people at Camelot decide to drop a few folding ones in my lap
Sound like excuses to me. All PR houses ensure you are aware of the requirements of an NDA before you get kit. The NDA is not just for you, if you hand the equipment to your staff they also must respect the NDA. It is a legal requirement and can be persued in the courts but the usual course of action is an embargo for that website for the next release. I wouldn't expect t-break to be getting any more AMD kit anytime soon.
"http://www.tbreak.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23952 ? Somewhere there was an NDA stating an expiration time of 8:01am GMT, June 1, 2004. Whether it was your NDA directly, or who you received the CPU's to test with doesn't matter. Someone broke their NDA and in my opinion, you should have more responsibility about what you publish and when. Those posts are from the 25th of May. -Jason Cavanaugh" I'll post the reply if and when I get one.
It was 5AM (or 5:01AM to be 100% accurate) - I posted my review live when my clock turned 5:01AM, it turned out my clock was 1 minute faster than the clock on the bit-tech servers, but still they've broken the NDA, and has Fly has said, it is a legal document... I don't know the ins and outs of exactly how NDAs work in legal terms, but I just know that you're not to break them.
