Other Stealing

Discussion in 'Software' started by Mushroomcloud, 2 May 2010.

  1. Mushroomcloud

    Mushroomcloud What's a Dremel?

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    I'm setting up surveillance cameras within my shop in an endeavour to catch a thief before i fire them. One of the cameras can only be set up upside down otherwise they will be seen.

    Anyone know of software that can be used to rotate the frames back to their proper orientation? :wallbash:
     
  2. Elledan

    Elledan What's a Dremel?

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    Real-time?
     
  3. Moriquendi

    Moriquendi Bit Tech Biker

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    I don't know what camera you're using but both my webcams have an inbuilt rotate function in their software, are you sure your software doesn't also?

    Moriquendi
     
  4. sotu1

    sotu1 Ex-Modder

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    most video editing software will allow you rotate any footage. Heck, I used Nero 10 the other day and you can rotate video in that. You could probably do it in Windows Movie Maker! If you used it as evidence I'm sure it would hold up as you've got the guy on tape.
     
  5. Otis1337

    Otis1337 aka - Ripp3r

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    i dont know, but once he/she is fried, can i have there job? :D
    But any well known video editing software should do the job, but not in real time.
     
  6. MiT

    MiT Don't feed me after midnight!! nom

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    turn your tv upside down. lol.

    Also am not sure if its true, but if you want to use cctv as evidence in court, you must have a sign in your shop saying you are using cctv.
    (in the UK)
     
  7. Mushroomcloud

    Mushroomcloud What's a Dremel?

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    It's purely as protection against any legal action once i throw him through out. Over here crooks get greater protection than us, especially if they get fired for stealing. I have gone down the James Bond road and fix some out of sight micro video cameras.
     
  8. 13eightyfour

    13eightyfour Formerly Titanium Angel

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    I know your pain, ive had numerous tools go missing over the years through people 'borrowing' them. Cameras are great but in your situation doesnt the employee have to know that they are being monitored for this to be effective?
     
  9. Mushroomcloud

    Mushroomcloud What's a Dremel?

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    I don't want them to know because they would stop the stealing, and i need evidence to head off any unfair dismissal claims. There is also a problem at the moment in that disgruntled employees like to hit back with a lawsuit. Once i have the evidence they will never know about it. In law i cannot produce this video as evidence in any legal action, but i can use it in self defence.
     
  10. 13eightyfour

    13eightyfour Formerly Titanium Angel

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    What i meant was if you do go to court, wont the camera footage be dismissed as the thief didnt know he was being monitored.

    Im no law expert but ive heard of people getting out of dodgey situations, where things were said that shouldnt have been, and were recorded, but because they didnt know it was being recorded it couldnt be used as evidence.
     
  11. Zoon

    Zoon Hunting Wabbits since the 80s

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    I'm going to back this up, as OP doesn't state if he's in the UK or not.

    If you are in the UK, it is not only a requirement for the sign to be up, its an offence to record a person without their knowledge or consent.

    You must put up a sign, or if not, they could most definitely use it against you.
     
  12. EvilRusk

    EvilRusk What's a Dremel?

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    In the UK you will have to be careful with cameras. If the OP did what they intend, the employee could try legal action against the store. Micro-cameras sounds voyeuristic.

    In addition, camera footage alone isn't really sufficient to prove theft. You really need to catch them in the act (leaving store with merchandise). I would seek legal advice before you commit to anything. I am aware of major retailers that have had to put up with tens of thousands of pounds worth of stock go missing before they had a case strong enough for dismissal where the employee couldn't sue. Repeatedly searching them could lead to a claim for harassment for instance.
     
  13. M7ck

    M7ck Ⓜod Ⓜaster

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    For legal purposes you only have to display a sign along the lines of "CCTV is in use on these premises and will be used in criminal prosecution" you can put the sign in a prominent place but make it look as if it is directed at customers. Be aware that any footage you rely on in a criminal prosecution must be date and time stamped as well as be uninterupted. Stills from CCTV footage is not admissable in court.
     
  14. adam_bagpuss

    adam_bagpuss Have you tried turning it off/on ?

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    + 1 M7ck.

    i work for a CCTV company and you must do the following in order for it to be considered in court.

    1: the site must make the customer/employee aware that CCTV is operating by providing clear and prominent signs.

    2: the recording system must also have digital watermark protection to prove the video hasnt been tampered.

    things you dont need to do is tell people where you put the cameras and how many you got and what methods you use to film them.

    my suggestion would be to put up some dummy cameras in obvious places and tell the staff about them and put the signs up, then you can use the covert camera without any problems if you required evidence.
     
  15. Dude111

    Dude111 An Awesome Dude

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    I hate people who steal from thier company,etc......

    Good luck my friend!
     

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