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News Steve Jobs’ Macworld 2008 Keynote - Live Updates Starting 5PM GMT

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  1. completemadness

    completemadness What's a Dremel?

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  2. CardJoe

    CardJoe Freelance Journalist

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    I'd MUCH rather have your Thinkpad than the Air. It's smaller, which is the entire point of the Air, has more connectivity and a more widley supported OS, decent enough specs and more than a single USB port. It's also good enough for some light gaming if I wanted (Fallout 2 for airplane fodder) and costs a hell of a lot less. I could buy a Thinkpad and an EEE PC and still have cash to put towards a laptop bag OR I could buy the Air.
     
  3. outlawaol

    outlawaol Geeked since 1982

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    That thing looks uber thin. I mean, it looks like if you pick it up wrong your going to snap it in half. heh.

    Anyway, Im a PC fan boy... .bring on the windows that dosnt work sometimes!

    ;)
     
  4. FR34K

    FR34K What's a Dremel?

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    O.O I'd be afraid to snap that wafer of a notebook...
     
  5. Guest-16

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    After a night to sleep on it - I'd still buy a TZ. Like said I'd still need Ethernet and there are some limitations that are just too much. It's an excellent idea but having the buy the DVD drive, no extra battery etc - the cost just racks up.

    The TZ has so much more, it's also smaller so it's actually more portable (at least for me), and it looks just as gorgeous.

    EDIT: Also Sony did the "air" with its 505 three years ago: http://www.trustedreviews.com/noteb...3/Sony-VAIO-VGN-X505VP-Ultra-Slim-Notebook/p1
     
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  6. Hugo

    Hugo Ex-TrustedReviews Staff

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    Motion carried, The only reason I'd buy the Air over the TZ is so I could whip it out and go "Look look, a MacBook Air".

    The TZ Is still waaaay more desirable to my mind.
     
  7. Hamish

    Hamish What's a Dremel?

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    maybe the pricing is more favourable in the US but comparing UK XServe pricing to Dell 1u servers you'd have to be a madman to go XServe
    i tried this a couple weeks ago, spec'd up a dual 2.8 quadcore xeon 1u system keeping all the specs as close to the same as possible
    the dell with server 2003 R2 x64 was £1200 cheaper, £1600 if you want to run linux on it rather than windows
    and i mean, for gods sake its a server, the only real advantage to Macs is basically negated (the slick and flashy design :p)
     
  8. Tim S

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    That's not the entire point of the Air though... the Air is designed to be an ultraportable (something that is defined by weight, not size) that has a full-sized keyboard and a decent-sized screen. The Air is something that you could almost use day in day out, whereas my ThinkPad isn't... Its 1024x768 resolution is a limiting factor in many scenarios and if I'm doing any serious work on it, it's hooked up to a much bigger monitor.
     
  9. Guest-16

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    Well if you're in the market for an ultra portable get the TZ and have a higher resolution screen and better connectivity?
     
  10. sub routine

    sub routine Archie Gemel

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    OK so it looks superb, but it appears a bit overpriced and underpowered. Well not underpowered for the task it performs but certainly overpriced IMO.

    It will appeal to wanky rich city types who sit in Starbucks drinking super double late expresso`s out of buckets with sprinkles on top. I used to like the design appeal of Apple but it`s super glorified Uber trendy bullcrap has overpriced and now put it as an elitist stylised PoP icon. Blah.
     
  11. Guest-16

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    It's certainly NOT underpowered for an ultra portable - most ultra portables on the market have ULV processors of about 1GHz. I've used one in the Asus U1F and it's more than adequate for the size and usage model.
     
  12. will.

    will. A motorbike of jealousy!

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    I'm trying to watch the keynote of the apple website, but it's actually hard to sit through these plebs whoopin' an' a hollerin' to their demigod, Steve. Why? He's excited because he's sold a load of iPhones... Of course he is, he's stealing your money! Arghh... All fairness to the products, they are definitely good, and their marketing is genius, but the people that worship the products! I can't stand them. GRRRRR!
     
  13. Tim S

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    Yeah, the wows and screams got a bit much to bear when I was watching it live too. :blah:
     
  14. Jipa

    Jipa Avoiding the "I guess.." since 2004

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    Even though it's iSlim and quite iLight, it's also iTremendously expensive for the specs. I guess it goes along well with the rest of the laptops from Apple, but there's no way I'd shell such big bucks on one of those.
     
  15. Bauul

    Bauul Sir Bongaminge

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    Meh, style over substance with a huge and crippiling price point to boot, the story of every Apple product. Whilst it certainly looks the part, the lack of Ethernet puts it in real danger of being useless in many situations. Good for specialist situations, but that battery life is rather poor, and it simply isn't worth that amount of money for a half centremeter reduction in height. I'd certainly have a play with one if I ever saw it, but I'd never buy one.

    Edit: Just saw a Woolworths home-brand laptop going for £300 that had the same specs of the Macbook Air. I think that says it all.
     
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    will. A motorbike of jealousy!

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    Yea, and looks like someone dropped a roofing slate of the back of a lorry :p
     
  17. Jipa

    Jipa Avoiding the "I guess.." since 2004

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    I don't get it how people dare to whine about the battery life? Damn 5 hours with wlan and BT on isn't half bad, I'll give Apple that.
     
  18. Tim S

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    Does it weigh less than 1.3kg though? Most people would say that the Macbook isn't "that heavy", but I thought about buying one when I bought my ThinkPad and it's a heavy beast... even though it's only about 2.2kg. I hate to sound like a broken record, but you pay more for an Ultra Portable notebook--even despite lower specs--because it doesn't weigh anything.

    If you walk around a tradeshow for several days on the trot like I do, you want something as light as possible. At CES, I was walking around 10 miles per day getting between meetings that ran from 8:30am to well into the evening... most nights, I got back to my room around 10pm. Then I'd start work, so there was very little time to sleep.

    My notebook is woefully underpowered for gaming, but since when did you need a 3GHz Core 2 Duo to check email, browse the web and edit a few photos? That's what my notebook (and the Macbook Air) is designed for. The Air has limitations--some massive, others unexplainable--but there are some definite attractions to it and, having recently bought a new Ultra Portable (well, earlier in the year), it's not priced too badly considering the spec.

    The Air is a little expensive in Britain/Europe compared to America, but that's the case with just about anything. An example is that I paid less than £800 for my ThinkPad in Taiwan and it was well over £1300 here with a slightly lower spec (a CDRW instead of a DVDRW external drive - everything else was the same).
     
  19. Tim S

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    Yep, it's pretty good, IMO... but there are other problems with the battery for me (not user-removable). :)
     
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    sub routine Archie Gemel

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