BBC Article Seriously? I understand that it's a University that's run along mormon values, and I guess it's okay to promote those values. But to actually suspend someone for having sex seems ridiculous to me. Thoughts?
It's the school rules and he knew that when he chose to break them. He should have followed the example of his Mormon elders and lied through his teeth. He is free to have sex, but the school is free to kick him out for it. If he is a star basketball player I'm sure he'll have no problem finding a more liberal University.
OOOOOH ZING. Frankly I fail to see a way through university without coffee, do they not have deadlines or engineering?
when you sign up to a uni, dont you sign a contract of sorts, which if you break means they are free to dismiss you
A univrsity has to have rules, but to what extent does it have a right to tell you how to live your life? Should not an institution offering a public service not discriminate on the grounds of lifestyle choice as long as it is within the law. Is this so different to the case of the Christian B&B owners over here?
The way i see it he willingly signed a contract/honour code not to have pre-marital sex and then willingly broke it as such the uni can do what they want as punishment. He didn't agree with the code he could have gone to another uni.
Still does not address whether or not the university has a right to enforce such a code. I mean, the B&B was trying to prevent a gay couple staying there. Sure, they could have stayed somewhere else, but that's not the point.
I don't think it's the same thing to be honest. It's a big difference between agreeing to abide by a code of conduct while at a university and getting turned away from a B&B simply because you happen to be gay. The university isn't discriminating against people based on their sexual preferences, it's simply saying that while you're a student we expect you to comply with our set of rules.
Universities like that are private, or not state funded. They are bankrolled by private individuals, trusts, and et cetera that have nothing to do with the state or its budget. As such, they are free to indulge in whatever rules they wish, and do on every occasion possible. State accreditation has nothing to do with rules and everything to do with "is the academic course of study offered equivalent to any other state funded school?" If the answer is yes, then they don't care. More to the point, if he's going to a Mormon school, he well knew what he was in for. That was a privately funded school with a religious emphasis. He would have been raised that that was wrong, his school asked him to sign a conduct code, and he chose to do it anyway. I'm honestly surprised that this is news. Even more so that it's getting a discussion.
It's not an university, it's an asylum. Sheesh, I really didn't think anything US- or religion related would surprise me, but this really is a nice example of the Free World (tm). Stupid of him to screw up, ludicrous of the school to have such rules.
I love the comments along the lines of "lol at the schools rules". It's a Religiously run University, which might I remind you, is an opt in affair, he agreed to follow their rules (which are based on their religious views), and broke the rules. The school is not even remotely at fault here. He agreed, he ****ed up, he got himself kicked out. Tolerance is a wonderful thing, and since so many people claiming that the school is ridiculous are the same people firing shots at people intolerant of other religions.. Well. Yeah. Interesting.
By going to university, you agree to their code of conduct, break it and they have the right kick you out. Simple, while I think it's a bit crazy in this instance, the guy would have known what was coming. Uni did the right thing.
He decided to go to a Mormon university. He could have gone to many other universities so it was his own fault.
