Study: College students more narcissistic

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  1. Cthippo

    Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag

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    Not sure if I buy this one or not :eyebrow:
     
  2. DougEdey

    DougEdey I pwn all your storage

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    Again this is probably on the increase, but as a percentage of the population has it changed (looks at a graph similar to Nexxos IQ one)?

    But surely these people are just what you guys refer to as "jocks"? They've just got a large ego.

    One of my English teachers knew the best way to get rid of that ailment, make 'em stand up on a chair and embaress them.
     
  3. cpemma

    cpemma Ecky thump

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    I don't buy that. "Politically active" now means moaning on the internet, not campaigning in real life. The downside is the genuinely politically-active are the extremists.

    "Concerned about the rest of the world"? Voluntary service organisations world-wide are struggling for new members, the public will give money but not their time to help other people. Everybody is "too busy". Not just America, not just students.
     
  4. DarkLord7854

    DarkLord7854 What's a Dremel?

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    I'm a narcissist aparently! :hehe:

    Articles like this crack me up. 16k students. That not even 10% of the student population. Smells like b/s to me
     
  5. ajack

    ajack rox

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    Damn I'm fantastic.
     
  6. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    Cognitive dissonance reduction. The more priviliged you are, the harder it becomes to justify it. In order to reduce the guilt, you convince yourself that you somehow have deserved it because you're special.

    Of course, that inevitably leads to a sense of over-entitlement and "the world owes me". See how people get their knickers in a twist over DRM --the idea of simply not buying if you don't like the terms doesn't occur to them. No, they have a right to their music... Such deprivation.
     
  7. Techno-Dann

    Techno-Dann Disgruntled kumquat

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    Actually, as long as it's taken correctly, a survey of a relatively small sample can be very accurate compared to a larger population. It took us a quarter's worth of math to get to the point, but basically, as the sample gets larger, the margin of error will get smaller. Sixteen thousand is a large enough sample that as long as it was selected correctly, it should give rather accurate data.

    As for the article itself, it's not really surprising. This generation has grown up in a society that indulges them to avoid "hurting their feelings", and this is the result.
     
  8. DarkLord7854

    DarkLord7854 What's a Dremel?

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    I've been to 6 schools worldwide, and I've never really seen any of this, maybe 1 or 2 students in the school, but that's it.
    But then again, the schools weren't in the US
     
  9. speedfreek

    speedfreek What's a Dremel?

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    Wow, that makes perfect sense.

    What people need to realize is that the world doesn't owe them crap and get over it, Im tempted to rant but I probably have little to no room to talk.
     
  10. Firehed

    Firehed Why not? I own a domain to match.

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    I would, but only because it's a UVM student. I know plenty, and they're generally like that. It's a Vermont thing. Absolutely awful place to go for reliable surveying, though. Here in Baboland, everyone's a complete self-centered arsehole (might be a business school thing rather than a representative of the world thing, I suppose). Except for me, and that's cause I'm perfect :p
     
  11. sinizterguy

    sinizterguy Dark & Sinizter

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    Narcissism seems to be how the world works today - Self-promotion, aggressive reactions to criticism, dishonesty, etc.

    College students are adapting to the game as it stands now.
     
  12. cjmUK

    cjmUK Old git.

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    I don't think this attitude is just limited to the privileged.

    Take your school-leaver who complains that the state is failing him/her because he can't pin down a £25k+ job...
     
  13. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    Depends on what you call "priviliged". From the perspective of someone who grew up in the '60s and '70s, even some kids on the estates have toys I could have only dreamt of... TVs and DVD players in their own bedroom, PlayStations, mobile phones...

    But yes, I know what you mean. A sense of overentitlement is not only a phenomenon limited to the priviliged. It is a basic egocentric viewpoint that we all go through as young children. As we develop towards adulthood we come to learn that the universe does not revolve around us and that we need to work for what we want (or we should, anyway). This of course depends on your parents teaching you. But if they are (behave as) a pair of developmentally arrested, egocentric young children, you are not likely to grow out of that phase either. Fat kids have fat parents; chav kids have chav parents...
     
  14. specofdust

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    Well, I'm a fair old narcissist, and frankly - I don't mind much. All actions humans do are for self-benefit, narcissism just makes things more direct.

    Do I consider myself better than the majority of other people? Hell yes, of course I do. I'm intelligent, motivated, resourceful, level-headed and reasonably sensible - I'm definitely special (that is to myself I am special, and I count more than you lot, simply because I'm me; if you fail to see the logic in that you're odd).

    Narcissism doesn't have to be totaly rubbish for other people though, so long as the social factors are right. Being tight with cash or rude leads to people disliking you, so theres a perfectly narcissistic reason to be neither that also benefits society. Likewise, doing volunteer work has several benefits for a narcissist, including looking the complete opposite of what you actually are.

    Narcissism, isn't the problem. Selfishness is. Imo there is an important difference.

    Now go ahead Nexxo, prove everything I just said wrong :D
     
  15. Firehed

    Firehed Why not? I own a domain to match.

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    We don't need Nexxo to prove you wrong. The opinions of anyone with an avatar as silly as yours are automatically rendered null and void, as per the updated terms of service of being a member of humanity (USC §42 P1337).

    ;)

    (I completely agree)
     
  16. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    Depends on what you call "Narcissism" (you knew I was going to say that, didn't you? :p ). You are right that we tend to liberally engage in self-serving attribution biases and cognitive distortions (--although not necessarily so: there is such a thing as lack of confidence, or its bigger, more pathological brother, low self-esteem). It's natural to put yourself at the centre of your world. It is generally even functional.

    Narcissism however, is more pathological. It is tends to be a tad more delusional and rigid than just having confidence or high self-esteem, and is more fragile. It is a psychological defence against underlying massive low self-esteem. This is why I was thinking of cognitive dissonance reduction.
     
  17. cjmUK

    cjmUK Old git.

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    I actually had to look up the definition, because I thought was [as you say] a very negative state. But what I found out was that narcissism itself is not bad (a little is healthy etc), but that excessive narcissism is a problem .

    The point I'm making is that we are all narcissistic and in general it's a healthy part of us. Extreme narcissism is not, but then I guess it's no longer merely narcissism.

    [PS. I'm not trying to trump nexxo's psychology credentials, especially with wikipedia as my source!]
     

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