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News Swastika prompts German Wolfenstein recall

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by CardJoe, 23 Sep 2009.

  1. CardJoe

    CardJoe Freelance Journalist

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  2. Dosvedagna

    Dosvedagna Justice!

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    i think games should be considered art in some sense...

    i mean after all they have to be designed, and sometimes they exist for no real purpose or are so visually pleasing that you become addicted to them - just like art
     
  3. Jack_Pepsi

    Jack_Pepsi Clan BeeR Founder

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    Yeah, things like this p.m.o. - I mean, aren't there more pressing matters at hand then kicking up a fuss about a Swastika in a old game which is about Nazis?

    Seriously, there is something better to be done than to whine about the sand caught in your crack(s).
     
  4. Jokkocze

    Jokkocze New Member

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    Well, it's about the New Wolfenstein, not the old one.
     
  5. Xir

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    The swastika is forbidden (as is nearly all nazi-memoribilia), they knew it, they put it in, they pull it back.

    Players will be getting the "uncut" variant anyway :D
     
  6. shigllgetcha

    shigllgetcha Come at me bro

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    i wonder how the history of WWII is told in germany. not in the context of this news just in general
     
  7. l3v1ck

    l3v1ck Fueling the world, one oil well at a time.

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    Since when has killing Nazis been a bad thing in games?
    Let's not forget the swastlika was a religious symbol long before Hitler *******ised it. (Though I think he reversed it.)
     
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    Paradigm Shifter de nihilo nihil fit

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    Correct.
     
  10. rpsgc

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    "It never happened. The end."
     
  11. capnPedro

    capnPedro Hacker. Maker. Engineer.

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    "Don't mention the war!"

    Seriously, they need to drop the issue and move on. By bringing it up like this, the German government is just drawing more attention to the matter. It's hardly a mature attitude.
     
  12. mi1ez

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    Is that it on the wall?
     
  13. Florian

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    Actually, holocaust denial can land you in jail in Germany.
     
  14. Rkiver

    Rkiver Cybernetic Spine

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    Oh FFS they still go on about that? WWII, it happened. Yes it was terrible. But removing swastikas from games based in that era is just idiotic at this point.
     
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    This is childish... why are they still so worked up about it, its not like the current generation of germans are at all to blame? I know it was terrible, but is anybody still holding a grudge about the holocaust against people who weren't even alive when it happened?
     
  16. Jack_Pepsi

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    That shouldn't make any difference. The thing I can think of is that the Germans still have a lot of Neo-Nazism and they don't want this game (or others) to exacerbate that.
     
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  17. Florian

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    German law is quite picky concerning the circumstances in which Nazi symbols can be used. Ironically, it's fine in movies (no matter how trashy), because movies are an established form of art, but even a screenshot in a gaming magazine showing a scene containing a swastika will get the magazine yanked off the shelves.
     
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    cjmUK Old git.

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    Now, there's and idea, Joe - Jail-time for critical bugs!

    Studios like Bohemia, GSC & Pirhana Bytes would be banged up in no time...
     
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    So how many of you guys that think it's OK would go and get a t-shirt with a swastika on and wear it down the high street? Fashion clothing could be seen as being artistic so does that justify the use of a swastika on clothing, and would this make people think that you are not a neo nazi? The symbol still invokes a massive amount of fear and anger to alot of living people who were affected, both indirectly and directly, by people who united under it, and it's usage shouldn't be taken lightly.

    Having lived in Germany for some time as a kid, I can tell you that they acknowledge their part in WWII much more than we do in the UK. They also give the war the respect it deserves. There are still many living Germans who feel ashamed of their country's actions during the war too.
     
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