So i have lookes for two lenses. Tamron AF 18-200mm F3,5-6,3 Di II Motor and Sigma AF 28-300mm F3,5-6,3 DG Macro So what do you think wich one is better?
Do you have any other lenses at the moment? It would help to know if you have any wider lenses or ones that do macro work already etc.
no i dont. I want to buy a camera body and lens. But now i have another problem, my friend recommended to buy a Canon, but i´ve looked for a Nikon D80. Wich one should i look for and wich one you recommend. Sorry for bad english.
I had the Tamron 28-300 for 8 years before it broke and used the hell out of it. It was a great lens and gave me thousands and thousands of great pictures. About two years ago I added a 19-35mm to my bag for wide angle work and found I used it a lot more than I thought I would. With the 28-300 dead I've ordered an 18-250 which should be here in another week or so. I'm planning to eventually get a 1.6X teleconverter for use at the high zoom end which will give me 18-400 in one and a half lenses. As for which Body, I use a Konica Minolta 5D, but if I were doing it today would get a Nikon. I love my Minolts, but since Sony bought them out I'm resistant to give Sony the time of day, much less a big chunk of my money. A friend of mind has a Canon Digital Rebel xti and it seems like a very difficult, dumbed down camera to use. I don't know anyone who's bought a Nikon and regretted it. Hope some of this helps.
Wow! Flame on I find the Nikon 200D to have a cluttered and insane menu system that doesn't clearly state what the hell is going on. Yet I know it's all down to me not being familiar with Nikon. max123 I think you should try looking through a 2-3 pages of threads on this forum and you should find at least a couple of threads that discuss Canon vs. Nikon vs. Etc for beginners. People ask here at least once every 14 days about this. I'm sorry I can't help you with the lenses as I have no experience with either. If you haven't already try looking them up online and read some reviews or perhaps comparisons. Good places to start with regards to reviews would be something like dpreview.com , fredmiranda.com and google for more
I've always felt Sigma had better optics than Tamron, but the Tamron doesn't have as much of a magnification on it so the optical design is a bit easier to get good IQ out of (not the best mind you). Photozone should have those lenses up for review. As for Nikon/Canon, look at the lens inventory and what you think you might want to use down the road. You are buying into a lens system, not a camera body. Secondly comes ergonomics.
Sorry, not trying to start anything, just sharing my expierience. This is how it usually goes if I try to use my friend's Canon. Frame picture Press shutter. Camera autofocuses, but does not take picture. Flash pops up Put down flash and re-frame Press shutter. Camera autofocuses, but does not take picture. Flash pops up Swearing ensues Put flash down and hold down Reframe and press shutter. Camera says "Error: Flash not available" and requires a reboot More swearing Friend takes camera away from me before I can find a solid object to throw it against My complaints about the screen mostly revolve around the color choices which is black on a bright white background. It's not terriably easy to read and way too bright when working in low light. Another point of frustration is that you have to hit the shutter twice to take a picture. Instead of having a half way position for the AF, you have the release the button and then press it again before it will shoot. It may be possible to change these as settings, but neither of us have been able to figure out how.
Cthippo... how about switching the camera off of "n00b" (auto) settings and into either Av Sv or M ? And IIRC you can disable the "asking for flash" somewhere as well. But honestly: take it out of complete auto. Please. If this flash-stuff is the case on anything out of auto then I shall stand corrected and know never to use a 450D. Neither my old 350D nor my 40D has black text on white BG... and I remember reading that you can select whether you want black on white or the other way round on the Xti (450D) so perhaps it's a user setting your friend has made at some point?
So your problem with Canon cameras is that you don't know how to use them? Hmmm.... As for the OP, I'd recommend neither lens. Look at the Tamron 18-250 and or wait until the 18-270 hits the streets.
My problem with them, or that model anyway, is that they're not intuative and are frustrating to use. When I got my 5D body I popped the lens on and went shooting, the controls were all fairly intuative and while I did need to hit the manual to figure out some of the more arcane features, it required no head scratching to use. I'm not sure how you shoot, but for me full auto is my default mode. I fully understand how the various settings work and their application, and I use them manually in situations where I'm looking for a particular result, but I also realize that my camera is an amazing device engineered to balance those many settings in order to capture the best possible image. 99 times out of 100 I trust it do do just that, and usually I'm quite pleased with the result. I do recognize it's limitations and biases, and can set it manually to overcome those, but most of the time there is no advantage to doing so.
hmm, I'm not sure how auto works... Truthfully I've never used it on a SLR of any kind. But I would be guessing it can't figure out the amount of DOF you want, or the relative amount of motion blur if any desired. until a camera is hooked up to your brain, it cannot take a picture for you the way you envisioned it in your head if you wanted a particular effect. what you are talking about are snapshots, P&S status.
That's because, like most good technology/tools, there is a slight learning curve in order to use the tool to its fullest capability. What do you expect...to pick up the body and automatically (or 'intuitively') know how to use every feature straight away?
Just take it out of full auto mode. any other mode will not do that. Not sure what you mean on the half press thing.. Never had that on a 300, 350D or 400D I have used.
Nah, it's more the 200D. It was a camera with a very difficult menu system. The D200 on the other hand, has a very nicely laid out menu system.
Um yeah! lol The D300 has an extremely intuitive menu system and the button layout is very good. Although I must admit, I would like a rotating selector button like on the D3. I fiddled with the D60 once and the menu system is just as easy to navigate. And I've only owned the D50 prior to the D300, I had film cameras before that and the D50 menu system is completely different from the current ones. So, no carry-over on system migrations there. Addendum: Live-view was the most un-intuitive feature however. but I never use it anyways
there is still a big chunk of Minolta DNA in Alphas so you'll feel at home with an Alpha. My A700 makes my Dynax 7D feel very clunky by comparison & I've never regretted getting it instead of a 40D/D80.
Cthippo - Stick it on 'P', that will leave the camera to deal with aperture and shutter, and you pick if you want flash or not (other things as well, but for the purpose of this that will do). My 450D came with a pocket guide on the basics of each mode, it's worth a look. And you shouldn't have to re-press the button to take a shot, halfway makes it focus, then continue to press for the shot. It might be due to a moving subject though? Different modes dictate whether it has to be focused before the camera will let you take a shot - if I were you I'd ask your friend. Personally I'd use 'P' for anything 'in the moment' and 'M' for anything you want to look good and have more than a second to play with. To the OP - you might want to have a play with the bodies, although they won't last as long as your lenses, it's still important that you're comfortable with them, I was strongly biased in favour of a Nikon, untill i went to a shop and played with it, and it felt hugely unweildy in my hands, a friend however has the same problem with Canon... It's all a personal thing. RwD
