News Teen alleged to have unleashed Sasser in the Dock

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2005/07/05/Sasser_Trial/

 

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just one of the many reasons i beleive in bringing back corporal punishment. an almost perfect example of power without responsibility. take him around the back of the police station and let three coppers show him what those boots were made for.

make an example of him. put him in solitary for 5 years, breaking rocks. the law system needs to punish people who do things like this. im all for full disclosure and proof of concept, but im strongly against the kind of widespread damage this abuse of systems causes. so far all this has shown people is "hey, write a worm and hammer every windows pc, and you'll get a cool job at a virus firm!", lets change that message to "hey, write a worm and hammer every windows pc, then spend 5 years in a cell with a 500lb guy who likes to wear floral print dresses, is nicknamed "big bubba buttf***er, and thinks you look purty".

kids write this sort of crap because they can, and more importantly, because its 'unpunished' crime. theres no reason for them not to. lets give them a reason.

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Man i wish i was as smart as them... i mean he'll get paid megabucks for his work and the price was simply a few hundred hours CS. Easily worth it. This is just after i watch the gumball 3000 and saw Kim Schmitz tearing chunks out the law. Its sad to say but some crime DOES pay. And this is one of them. I mean they are extremely talented individuals so i suppose they might aswell contribute positively by working for anti-virus companies. But its really a case of the AV companies creating more business. Employing ppl who write virii causes more ppl to try it and the more ppl who do it the more ppl they have to employ. Sounds like a winning business plan.

 

Tbh, he found a weakness, he exploited it...I don't think he should get any time, yeah its a bad thing, but hey, in his eyes it was only a prank probably, just as malicious as egging your neighbours house (then finding in the process you egged 1/2 the Country..)

Hes only a whiz kid that exploited a vunerability in an OS that shouldn't be there..

- M@

 

So we should ignore the damage he caused and the problems that virus's and exploits cause because it was a prank.



Chuck him in jail 1 month for each million pound of damage he caused.

 

Perhaps someone ought to set about him with scaffolding poles and socks full of marbles.

Couple that with gordy's suggestion and not only will he not be doing it again, he'll feel sorry too.

- H.

 

It's stuff like this that makes hacking truly have a bad name. I don't think community service is a fitting punishment here. In America, we have a law governing "Forseen or forseeable" consequences. For someone who writes a virus or worm, it would easily be a forseen consequence that this would infect many computers, making him liable for all the damages.

 

I would hit him where its going to hurt most.

In his wallet.

He would have known that this would cause allot of financial damage to many companys.

Give him a $500,000 dollar fine.

 

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BS... It is because of punks like this that the anti-virus industry is necessary. It is not his job to exploit a weakness in an os. He did it b/c he thought it was cool. He was not doing mankind a service. Just showing off to his friends! He did however manage to jack up the price on everything!

Every time something like sasser gets out... it cost millions to get it under control. Then six month later WE pay for that "prank"! Symantec now has to hire the little punk. So it jacks up the price of Norton’s 2006. Microsoft has to hire a team of programmers to fix the weakness. Further burdening the already struggling OS. Your ISP has to upgrade its firewalls and virus protection either causing a hike in fees, or even worse delaying bandwidth upgrades.

Do not kid yourself the "movie" hackers was entertaining, but in real life there is NOTHING funny about it. I have neither tolerance nor sympathy for this kid....
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that is assuming he is guilty.

 

tbh he shouldn't get any time, in fact he should keep writing virii. yes I hate them, but until people realize how to avoid getting them - it's not hard! - it's more their fault than the writers.

 

Eh, I've known some pretty computer literate people who get virii...mostly big corporations before the patches come out for them. They are essentially the guinnea pigs, with infrastructures that are massive and hard to totally lock down, and need to be able to share information with other companies and customers. And they have some VERY knowledgeable IT people.

I just wouldn't say everyone is 'deserving.' Particularly where it costs the most money, which is at the corporate levels.

 

Erm, he didn't discover the exploit did he, it was already well documented, all he did was make a virus on it. No way i'd employ him, he's not done anything smart or clever.

Now Sasser was fairly harmless and it did show the exploit, but thats not claim enough for doing it, if you were making this, you'd make it patch the computer, and show a message telling the user that they need better IT consultation, or to learn to patch.

 

Wow I can't beleive this guys going to get away with this. Man, I know his sasser got my computer when it first came out. I had that install going for two years without a problem, then bam his shiit messed my system up. Beside that he made a lot of money for everyone that works on computers. I know I had to fix aout 20 to 30 computers and i made money fixing them, but it was still wrong to make it.

 

well I got a virus the other day too, but I learned my lesson from it. first - never trust a high school's IT department. second - if it SAYS htm at the end, then the hide known extensions thing isn't kicking in and something is wrong...

 

That's about as good a logic as "It was the rape victims fault for not knowing how to defend him/herself." "It's the victims fault for being shot in the head by a stray bullet because he doesn't wear a helmet everywhere he goes."

If no one made viruses, then no one would need to use an AV prog, and no one would get viruses for not using one.

It is the virus makers who are guilty, not the victims (although I do agree that they are easy enough to avoid for the most part, it still doesn't make it the users fault for getting one.)

I know my situations were far worse than a virus, just saying, the logic is the same, and it's a flawed one.

 

but unlike rape and stray bullet shots, viruses are highly preventable and knowing how to not get a virus is common knowledge among people who can build their own comp and should be for those who can figure out how to turn one on, hence my point. And chances are a virus doesn't invoke fear for your life, thus screwing around with your abilities to do anything logical.

and a helmet would most likely not do jack against a stray bullet, for the record. I suppose a 1" thick lead thing, but not something that doesn't way forty pounds.

my logic is more like "you shouldn't need the accidental damage prevention warrantee because not knocking your laptop off a table should be fairly simple" (and on a side note, they can take it, as mine has done more than once, and yes that was my fault and I knew it was in a position where it was at risk to do so)

 

ahhhhhhh i wish i could do that........... hes got a good job out of it tho





ah well let the punk off lol if there was't people like him he would't have a job now lol


but yeah bad boy

i mean "Although Microsoft had released a patch for this loophole on 13 and 28 April 2004, many companies had not applied this protection before Sasser struck." whos probs that

 

I agree with the statement that some crime does pay. That job he has now is probably paying a lot. And his future is pretty well secured in the tech industry.

 

your missing the point, he did NOTHING clever. Nothing a first year programming student shouldn't be able to manage.

 

true but its more than i can do lol