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Motors The Bit-Tech F1 2015 Thread - Season Complete

Discussion in 'General' started by RedFlames, 23 Nov 2014.

  1. faugusztin

    faugusztin I *am* the guy with two left hands

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    lilgoth89 Captin Calliope

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    lilgoth89 Captin Calliope

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  5. faugusztin

    faugusztin I *am* the guy with two left hands

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    That Mercedes idea is the worst design of the all :
    1) blocks the center of the view
    2) you can't open it when car flipped anyway
    3) protects only against huge debris - wouldn't help you in the case of Massa's injury.
     
  6. David

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    IIRC, Massa was hit by a 2kg spring whilst travelling at ~140mph. The upright/ T-Bar would likely have deflected the spring.
     
  7. faugusztin

    faugusztin I *am* the guy with two left hands

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    Massa was hit at the side of his helmet, above his left eye. That could still easily pass around that T bar. Or minor hits are fine ?

    Either make it a full canopy, or make it a cabrio-like front window. There is really no alternative, certainly not this monstrosity from Mercedes.
     
  8. legoman

    legoman breaker of things

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    Pretty slim odds id say, the spring wasnt very large and without a closed cockpit there is always a risk. Ironically they wont use a closed cockpit partly because the risk that debris could be launched into the crowd.

    enclosed cockpit doesnt help stop debris hitting the crowd here

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    or here

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    or here even

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  9. BentAnat

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    I don't think the T-Bar/hoop is a terrible ide. It would keep tyres, etc away.
    Small items probably not so much.

    That said - it'd also be a matter of time before that gets used as an aero device.
     
  10. fix-the-spade

    fix-the-spade Multimodder

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    The spring came in from the left at an angle, it would have gleefully ignored that protuberance and smacked Felipe on the head anyway.

    Formula 1 seems desperate to avoid the obvious, which is a roll hoop at the front of the cockpit and then an armoured glass (as in laminated Ploycarbonate) windscreen that extends to a height level with the top of the drivers head rest or very slightly higher. Imagine the shape of the front section of a F15 or F18 canopy (as opposed to Ferrari firing entire tyres at a second hand F-16 canopy six years ago and calling it too weak, despite it surviving the impacts intact).

    Of course this would interfere with their precious aero, hence stupid objet d'art type affairs. Anything to let them pretend the status quo is the best solution.
     
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    fix-the-spade Multimodder

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    http://planetf1.com/driver/3213/76117/Williams-retain-Bottas-Massa

    In possibly the least shocking turn of events this year, Williams are retaining the services of both Valteri and Felipe. It's almost like they want to have consistent, reliable drivers in their team.

    I wonder if any of them miss Pastor (except when they miss him in the literal sense on track).
     
  12. rollo

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    Mercedes have a new upgraded engine for monza and it already looks crazy fast.
     
  13. 13eightyfour

    13eightyfour Formerly Titanium Angel

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    Really hoping the Ferraris (mainly Kimi) are competative in race trim and can take it to the Mercs. I think we'er likely to see a Merc 1-2 though, with more of a battle over 3-6 between Ferrari/Williams/FI

    Best starting positions ever for the Manor boys as well, highly unlikely but they could pick up a point or 2 if the cars around them have issues etc..

    With Maldonado being in the middle of the pack I fully expect carnage at the first corner! I'll go for Maldonado/Grosjean and one of the Saubers out there.
     
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    and Grosjean, Maldonado out....

    who saw that coming ? :thumb:
     
  15. fix-the-spade

    fix-the-spade Multimodder

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    Frankly I didn't. I mean, not like that, not in such a dull an-crash like manner.
     
  16. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    Vettel has been in a sweary mood recently it seems -

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    faugusztin I *am* the guy with two left hands

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    Hamilton and Rosberg. Question is if they can punish Nico for next race if they DSQ Hamilton.
     
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    In the past Red Bull have run tyres at pressures and camber angles beyond Pirelli's recommendations, it will be something of a travesty if they punish Hamilton over it this time.
     
  20. Pieface

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    It's a bit sad of Williams to come out and pretty much beg for a DSQ. Especially after their cock up at Spa. Also the Red Bull fans coming out and begging for a DSQ because of Riccardios DSQ last year when his car consistently went over the fuel flow rate which will most likely have a much better performance advantage over 0.3 psi on the tyre. I'm not saying Hamilton shouldn't be punished (OR Mercedes, unless they find out Pirelli did cock up), but a DSQ over 0.3psi to let the Ferrari win at Monza screams ********. Even Vettel feels like he shouldn't win it.
     

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