Motors The Bit-Tech F1 2015 Thread - Season Complete

Meanwhile Michelin is trolling Mercedes :
https://twitter.com/MichelinTyres/status/640538784052834304

The difference is that the minimums defined by Pirelli are now enforced. It is not not a recommendation, but a enforced minimum.

 

No further action re: AMG Merc's Tyre pressures, result stands as-is

 

Some Sence arives in the Stewards at last whats this lol.

Pirelli dude could simply of said the tyres were correct and this need not of even been took to the stewards.

Feel sorry for Nico but thats his title chances gone ( If he ever had any )

Lewis finished 25 seconds ahead and the gap could of been double that in reality his pace when asked to push for those final 4-5 laps was mighty. He basically picked up 2 seconds in pace.

Ferrari are still a million miles away in race pace, In Clean air as both Lewis and Vettel was they are 0.8 seconds a lap minimum behind Lewis race pace.

Kimi had a good race except the start, No clue what happened there Sky never bothered to show what happened due to all the talk about Mercs tyres.

Williams are a big disapointment for a few things, They have no real race pace compared to Ferrari or Merc. And asking for DSQ when your driver drove around on mismatched tyres in the previous race is poor going. Merc could really punish them if they choose to.

Some intresting battles throughout the field bar the front 2.

Skys Coverage of the race was not very good. There usaul end race coverage is excellent but they spent way to long on a chance of Mercedes been punished instead of giving us there usaul show. The fact that most of the major events in the race where not even discussed is very disapointing stuff.

 

They did talk about that. They explained that most likely he had a problem with clutch and once he started the procedure again, he started fine. But he lost many positions in those 2-3 seconds.

 

Just about to watch the race and I'm glad buerocratic nonsense wasn't allowed to taint the result.

I mean 0.3 psi on one tyre, a little embarrassed ( and a little respect lost) for Williams considering they drove round with an odd tyre last round.

Seriously pat wind your neck in.

 

The difference between Spa and Monza was the "puncture" Vettel had. That resulted in decision to enforce minimum pressure and other stuff from Pirelli about wheels.

 

The puncture he had from pushing the tyre too far and constantly exceeding the track limits. Ferrari rolled the dice and lost plain and simple that time.

What it boils down too is clarifying the psi test system.

 

Looks increasingly likely that RBR/STR will be Ferrari customer teams next year... [link]

 

It looked to me like he didn't put it in gear!

 

I really hope Ferrari tell Red Bull to go away.

After Red Bull's behaviour towards Renault I so desperately want to see Red Bull Hondas on the grid next year. Preferrably behind the Mclaren Hondas on account of their suddenly shrunk budget and customer status...

My perfect outcome would be Ferrari saying no to Red Bull, but yes to Toro Rosso, STR are still the only team to win a race with a Ferrari Engine not fitted to a Ferrari.

 

From what I gather - it's more a case of Merc have told RBR to do one for the reasons of -

If RBR win with merc engines it makes the works team look bad.
If they don't win they'll bitch and whine about the engine like they did with Renault. [and this was the main reason they said no]

 

Completely understandable they don't want the bad press. RBR are to used to winning they have become such a large team they expect wins and will throw the toys out the pram when they don't come.
I can see ferrari saying the same thing as they acknowledge their engines still not as quick as the mercs lump.

The Honda unit is down anywhere upto 180bhp in a straight line the only reason they are ahead of Manor on track is that Manor are using a bodged under developed 2014 spec car. If Honda can work some kind of miracle over the rest of the season an winter they may get to where Renault are now so if RBR end up with a Honda unit they would moan as well. I can see them ending with no engine supplier because the was they treat their current one.

 

Doubtful.

Eric Boullier admitted the partnership underestimated the difficulty in producing a competitive car and said he expects the 2016 car to be an evolution. Which sounds significantly different from the noises they were making just a few weeks ago.

I think that ties in with the rumours about Jenson being retained - they fully expect to still be developing and playing catch-up with the rest of the field next year.

 

Fair point, Monza is the quickest track, in quali trim they were woefully behind everyone. I think I remember someone saying they wanted to come in next season. Even if they did they are that far behind I cant see that helping either.

Had a read of a couple of bits more this morning, Ferrari seem to be making the noises (or least Arrivabene is) that they are happy to supply RBR with powertrains. As to weather this happens will be something else entirely.

I hate to say it but the more I hear from Arrivabene the more I like the guy he seems genuinely passionate about Ferrari and the sport as a whole, little quote from him relating to the engines

 

Well, Merc has officially snubbed RBR for engine supply, according to Autosport.

This means it's VERY likely to be Ferrari for the Red Bull teams next year.
Renault has also said that they're either buying Lotus or are pulling out of F1 completely.

 

Renault are very close to Merc in consumer cars. It would not be a big surprise if they have asked them not to supply them with engines. As Merc need Renault for consumer cars.

 

Closed cockpits discussion: why are they such a bad idea?

Point 1: Mercedes SLS (gullwing doors) - they managed to work out a way of getting the doors off in the case of an upturned car, which was exploding door bolts. The doors would just fall off, meaning driver and passenger (or F1 driver in this instance) could get out/be extricated.

Point 2: World Endurance Championship - they use closed cockpits with no real issues. It's an FIA series, so conforming to all their safety regulations and such, so it would be possible, although difficult, to implement a closed cockpit into F1.

Point 3: F1 Powerboats. They have closed cockpits designed to break away in a crash. The driver stays in the cockpit until a safety team gets to them, and either extricates them on a boat or takes them to shore to extricate them.

I don't see why everyone is saying closed cockpits are such a hazard and will cause no end of issues, when here are three perfectly valid and viable options of proven methods that could be used.

Thoughts?

 

That will have played a part for sure.
The other consideration being the obvious one of not supplying what could be the biggest championship contender with engines.