The Coronavirus Thread

Discussion in 'Serious' started by d_stilgar, 13 Mar 2020.

  1. Gareth Halfacree

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    It absolutely is. Which is a bit daft, given that LFT negatives are effectively a coin-toss, but still. All you need is a negative test result or your shiny NHS "I'm jabbed" QR code, not both.
     
  2. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    Yeah I know people who have had several negatives on LFTs but positive on PCR.

    My OH had to go for a PCR the other day due to the natural hazards of her work and contacts. Thankfully negative.
     
  3. Gareth Halfacree

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    I forget the exact figures, but the sensitivity and specificity studies I last saw suggested that an untrained COVID-positive person taking an LFT and getting a negative happens more often than them getting a positive - but that a negative person getting a positive is super-rare.

    Which is to say a negative LFT is no guarantee, making the whole "you don't need to be vaccinated before you go and rub shoulders with a bunch of people at a football match so long as you've got a negative LFT result" a Very Bad Idea. Going that route, it should be PCR only.
     
  4. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    Agreed.

    If you don't want to show vaccination status, or lack off, waiting half a day/day for PCR results isn't a hardship right now.

    Mind you that would be reliant on the support being given to allow that to happen.
     
  5. Byron C

    Byron C Official Necromancer

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    Pretty much spot on. With the LFT, a false negative is common - you can test negative on an LFT but still get a positive on a PCR. False positives, however, are practally impossible, whereas false positives are definitely possible with the PCRs.
     
  6. David

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    Wut? Why??
     
  7. andrew8200m

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    That’s correct but she was 6 months pregnant and at that point the midwife suggested we just wait as there was always a possibility of complications from a jab compounded further by being as far on as she was. How this stands now, 6 months later, I have no idea. Baby is on the cusp of being 3 months old and out of the majority of harms way so now was the time to get our shot of gps tracking equipment nano bots (pmsl, there’s some idiots about.. we have phones ffs!)


    As for the passport, it is now yes but the way Europe is going and how the Scot’s and Welsh are being pushed, it’s only time before bojo buckles and we end up there. Most anticipate this so this is why they’re now at it “just in case”.


    I was fine. It was 90 seconds after the fact. Likely low blood sugar, could have been something else. Who knows.
     
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  8. Arboreal

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    My son phoned this morning to say that his 2nd PCR came back positive earlier. The first one was inconclusive apparently, not sure what happened to that one. This was after a couple of negative LF tests having found his housemate tested positive.
    The timing looks juuuuuuuust OK to come home before Christmas. Just need to see how the boosted grandparents are with visiting on Christmas Day
     
  9. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    That pretty sums up how I've felt over the past couple of years mate :lol:

    I lose all track of time, I think I even congratulated you on the new addition - if not, congrats!

    Lol @ the tracking too. FFS they spent over £30billion on their mates to setup track and trace which is useless - people think they'd be capable of nanobot tracking?!?

    There are conspiracies afoot, just not those. Like pushing through legislation that'll mean the government can ignore legal court judgements or the banning of people protesting at infrastructure builds, or named individuals not allowed to protest or talk about it online, the increase in stop and search on the 'suspicion' of carrying protest materials and so on. COVID is a good distraction for them to do that.

    Except they're not conspiracies - they're happening.
     
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  10. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    * Crosses fingers *
     
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  11. Gareth Halfacree

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    You had me in the first half, there, not gonna lie.
     
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    My sons lateral flow test was positive last night. All went off for a PCR this morning.

    My son is currently in bed, shivering and watching DVD's. Poor little scrap.

    Christmas may well be canceled.
     
  13. Byron C

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    LFTs are less sensitive, so you need a higher viral load for it to confirm a positive case. PCRs can detect a lower viral load, but the process used to 'amplify' whatever virus might be there makes the test less accurate.
     
  14. adidan

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    Flirt
     
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  15. Arboreal

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    Sympathies from Arboreal Towers, my daughter had it in August and was down for over a week. Ironically, she was more severely ill for 3 days after her 2nd jab in Sept.
    We may well be just the 4 on the day. The difficult part is my son's 21st birthday next Thursday.
    One of the LAN guys is unwell for the 4th day today and is just about turning the corner
     
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  17. Gareth Halfacree

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    The burning question on my lips: why is it, exactly, that the government seems to have forgotten about the existence of under-12s? Get jabbed and wear masks at school, kids are told... secondary school kids. Meanwhile, my kids are at primary where nobody's wearing a mask (parents are told to wear one at pickup and drop-off, but they don't - in fact, one parent of a kid in my eldest's class wrote a massive screed on the school Facebook page about how she would never follow such a rule because "it's all about control" and blah-blah-blah-special-snowflake-conspiracy-nut), the government's promised carbon dioxide monitors never appeared, and there's inadequate ventilation.

    So, no problem, it's looking like being fully jabbed-up protects you pretty well from omicron... except they're not jabbed, 'cos the government hasn't approved a vaccine for under-12s yet. Other countries have, and it doesn't appear to mutate them into bizarre 5G-emitting cell-tower-monster hybrids - but Our Glorious Leaders are still dragging their feet.

    Now the usual argument that comes back on this is "COVID deaths in young kids are extremely rare," which, yes, thankfully, that's true. But the outcome of an infection isn't a binary "absolutely fine" or "dead," there are a range of long-term issues that can and do affect children - and, of course, there's the little issue about the fact that (as any parent knows) the little blighters are great at bringing bugs home from school and infecting the whole family.

    ...and breathe.

    But, yeah, please can has kiddiejab soon? Kthxbye.
     
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  18. David

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  19. Arboreal

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    GH, that IS a problem, and not being attended too at any great speed by the look of it.
    I totally agree about the, (oddly unsuprising), non binary nature of things.

    We have friends (her late 50s, him mid 40s) who had Covid Feb/Mar 20 who are both still suffering variable long term effects with no predictability of how they will change or affect them on any given day.
    Youngsters severely ill with Covid are not being talked about or reported as far as I can see.
    A friend's son went in for life changing brain surgery in the summer, and was expected to recover slowly over 8 weeks in Great Ormond Street. He recovered in a few days, almost miraculously, having removed 50ml of brain tissue in a couple of areas.
    He was told to go home and recover at home ASAP as it was way more risky there with so many children ill with Covid on site.

    In other news, my customer is still in Critical care after 15 weeks in hospital without having had any vaccinations. I though he'd turned the corner, but I've been informed this week that the family were summoned from Birmingham, (to Bournemouth), on Tuesday as he was worse than on admission.
    Lack of sympathy for not being vaccinated aside, the poor bloke has been on dialysis, in an induced coma for 6 weeks and had pneumonia.
    I'm not sure if he has underlying medical problems, but I do know that his lungs are likely to be really in bad shape. He's a crashed car specialist, and those guys hardly ever wear masks when sanding the filler...
    I've seen what the inside of his extraction vacuum cleaner looks like, and would pit money that his alveoli are caked with that nasty fine dust.
    You wouldn't wish that on anyone, but WHY would you not protect yourself at work and from the 'rona????
    /rant
     
  20. yodasarmpit

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    Governments will always take advantage of a situation to write the rules in their favour, what annoys me about the conspiracy nuts is they believe all the worlds governments conspired together to make up Covid.
     

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