Motors The Formula 1 2003 Thread

Just realised there wasn't a thread to discuss the current F1 season. I thought it would be fitting to put it in the motors forum since we don't have a specific sports forum and it is a motorsport. (Mods please move to correct forum if this is the wrong one.)

Current Standings:

1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 71
2 Juan Pablo Montoya Williams 65
3 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren 62
4 Ralf Schumacher Williams 53
5 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 49
6 Fernando Alonso Renault 44
7 David Coulthard McLaren 41
8 Jarno Trulli Renault 22
9 Jenson Button BAR 12
10 Mark Webber Jaguar 12
11 Giancarlo Fisichella Jordan 10
12 Cristiano da Matta Toyota 8
13 Heinz-Harald Frentzen Sauber 7
14 Olivier Panis Toyota 6
15 Jacques Villeneuve BAR 3
16 Nick Heidfeld Sauber 2
17 Ralph Firman Jordan 1
18 Antonio Pizzonia Jaguar 0
19 Jos Verstappen Minardi 0
20 Justin Wilson Jaguar 0

Teams:

1 Ferrari 120
2 Williams - BMW 118
3 McLaren - Mercedes 103
4 Renault 66
5 BAR - Honda 15
6 Toyota 14
7 Jaguar - Cosworth 12
8 Jordan - Ford 11
9 Sauber - Petronas 9
10 Minardi - Cosworth 0

So which driver / team do you think will take home the gold this year?

I still think MS will win this year cos he has to be the most lucky driver of all time. I reckon BMW Williams will win the constructors championship as Ferrari seem to rely on Schumacher too much and Barrichello has had a disapointing season.

What does everyone think of the season so far?

I think since the new changes have been introduced this has to be one of the mosting exciting championships. I mean it's sooo close compared to last year. Looking at the current standings there are only 9 points seperating the top 3.

 

Well I sure hope it wont be Michael. Monty maybe... If only Alonso had a better car...

 

Just heard on the Radio no Canadian grand prix next season as they have banned Tobacco adverts.

 

I didn't care about that, what i really care is when the boring Gps are going to end?
I mean since the fuel recharge was introduced the races become so sad.
In the last years i've seen just two or three good races with good surpasses.
When pilots overtake each other it has to be on the track not during the fuel stop

BTW hbday man

 

Re: Re: The Formula 1 2003 Thread

drivers

pilots are for planes, drivers drive cars.

 

Re: Re: Re: The Formula 1 2003 Thread

Yeah, english is my second language.
However today's F1 cars looks like planes

 

Well, I hope that someone else, ANYONE else (apart from Ralp) wins the drivers championship this year, I can't stand MS, and he doesn't deserve half the championships he has 'won' anyway.


Also, I agree with ChillingSP, IMHO ever since re-fueling got introduced F1 has been going downhill, this is probably the most exciting season we've had for a loooong time.

 

Bit of a boring race today apart from the start. Thought Marc Gene was great today considering the guy had late notice for racing. Crash at the start looked bad.

 

Yeh Gene got the chance to prove himself in a decent car, looks like his stock will have jumped a bit.

Again I was dissapointed with Coulthard, I've been a long time supporter of him and will continue to be so.
I just wish he would be more aggresive.

 

Yeah, no single overtaking IIRC, damn refueling stops
Pit-stop overtakings are as exciting as a jazz quartet.

However a record has been set 368 km/h , the f1 max speed.

 

what do you all think of the whole tire situation and the changing of the interpretation of the rule regarding contact patches?

I think the FIA basically decided that way to give Michael a 6th world championship - he was going to get dusted by JPM or Kimi (or both) and knew it.

I honestly do believe the new interpretation is how the rule should have been, but to enforce its change at the end of a season is ludicrious!

BTW - DC is my fav too... got a 1/24 RC McLaren too (And a Williams, but that was more of a Compaq sponsorship thing)

 

Hmm..i don't know.
These days sport is ruled by money more than ever.
A championship can bring a lot of milions to a team and so ferrari's move is comprehensible.
An exciting and uncertain championship can bring a lot more milions to Fia also (commercials, more tickets, more gadgets, etc) , so i don't think Fia is going to help Michael, it's only clarifing a situation rised by Ferrari (I think Williams or Mclaren would have done the same thing...).
Besides, Michael is a really tough driver if you think that is driving the same car as Barrichello but with much much more result (as yesterday race demonstrates), so I think Micheal deserves this Championship as well as Montoya so far.

 

Michael Schumy all the way.....

luck.. pfft, all the downgrading of the cars etc etc, only proves that he does indeed know what he's doing.

 

Its w**k

Just cause they had a slight advantage, the bridgstone lot threw there toys out of the cot. FFS, bridgstone have had an advantage for the past seasons from when michelin joined the fray.

I will be so annoyed if MS wins again, what could be more dull??

 

I'm hoping MS doesn't win again because it would seriously damage the sport. Anyhow the only reason the Ferrari's did so well this time was the 2000 different tires bridgestone tested at Monza before the race at the request of Ferrari.

 

Well MS proved once again he has the luck of devil after finishing 8th and getting the 1 point he needed to retain his world title. Pretty good race with some great moments, it looked like Kimi might actually take the title at one point (MS losing his front wing, crashing with Sato, Ralph running into the back of him).

Williams I must say made a complete mess of the race and through away the constructors championship. Aweful drive by Ralph and Montoya's car failing.

At least Rubens won which is cool because he is my favourite driver and probably deserves a few more wins. I hope next season is as close or closer than this one. Also the FIA need to stop changing the rules mid-season and just stick with the ones they set at the begining.

 

Hopefully Schummi will retire now!

But I guess this unlikely with his contractual obligations with Ferrari.

Nice to see Jense & Takuma secure 5th for BAR. I suppose it was easy for them once they got rid of the dead weight....

 

Have to agree with you. MS has done all he canin F1 now is the time for him to leave.

Villenuie has been a waste at BAR, (never liked him at all). Can someone fill me in on why he didn't race in Japan? Sato seems to be much much better (actually finished the race and in the top 8).

 

Because of the usual JV primadonna-ish pouting.

"Oh, you don't want me for next season due to my outlandish wage demands and under performance, therefore I shall throw the teddy out of the pram, take my ball back and go home..."

 

Thought is was some crap like that. He really is over paid isn't he? Considering the aweful driving he has displayed. Not to mention his attitude to BAR. After Sato's performance I bet BAR are glad to see the back of him.