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Discussion in 'General' started by The_Crapman, 10 Mar 2025.

  1. The_Crapman

    The_Crapman World's worst stuntman. Lover of bit-tech

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    Well, who saw this coming? Final race, 3 drivers with a mathematical chance of the wdc. Like him or loath him, if max wins this will possibly be the greatest title victory of all time.
     
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    I'll quote myself from last summer and the Hungarian GP.
    Max has driven excellently this year, but he isn't winning it, Mclaren are throwing it away. Red Bull is laser focused around Max and Max's car, all the talk about the car not being worthy is nonsense, he's in the most expensive, most carefully developed around a single set of data points machine since Schumacher's Ferraris. Even then, if Mclaren had been a little bit more competent and focused on one driver (Lando, since he's more consistenly the faster of the two) he wouldn't have a chance.
    Instead Mclaren is so busy beating Mclaren they forgot about Max. More than a few shades of Kimi 2007.

    For my money the greatest title victories are:
    1957: Fangio wins in a 3 year old Maserati 250F the press described as 'a museum piece,' breaks the Nurburgring lap record 10 times in 22 laps on the way.
    1991: Senna and the H-pattern V12 Mclaren against the Williams FW14's flappy paddles, traction control and active suspension.
    2009: The Brawn/Button miracle.
     
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    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    If Max wins McLaren lose this it will be fumble of such proportions that no-one at McLaren should live it down.

    Ultimately i think it's will, barring some 2021 level ****ery, be decided by who makes it out of turn 1 intact and in what order...
     
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    The_Crapman World's worst stuntman. Lover of bit-tech

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    That's fair, just seen an interview with him saying if red bull had their car this season, the championship would be dead and buried already :hehe:
     
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    The_Crapman World's worst stuntman. Lover of bit-tech

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    Well, I thought Norris didn't have the mental toughness for it, but he's come back from that bad run from zandvoort and finished it. Great season
     
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    The shirt I put on, this morning:

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    Between that blow up in Zaandvort and the DSQ in Vegas McLando left 36 points on the table, this really shouldn't have been as close as it was. It does (to me) show that Lando learned lessons from last year.

    Pub trivia, Max just took the record for most wins in a season without winning the championship from Alain Prost (7 in 1988).
     
  8. The_Crapman

    The_Crapman World's worst stuntman. Lover of bit-tech

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    Of course! On account his is mother is Belgian! :rollingeyes::duh:

    You can never take that off now. Let it become one with your skin, blessed with the luck of papaya rules :hip:
     
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    The guy's 82, he could just be retiring. Or it could be a sign that all is not well for next year. No Newey, no Horner, no Honda. 2026 may be a 'challenging' year for Red Bull.
     
  12. David

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    Gee, that would be a real shame...
     
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    Good riddance, horrible man.
     
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    Getting rid of Newey and Mekies in really changed something at the team. Be it focusing on driver feedback, listening more to the data or even prep going into the weekend, the change seems to have turned Red Bull around.

    It makes me wonder even despite losing Newey, Horner and Bellend might the team be in a better place to work through problems without the toxic backstabbing cutthroat culture that is plaguing the team.

    Losing Honda is likely to be a blow as I have no faith in RB powertrains, tho Honda could also have a torrid time next year anyway. It isn’t quite the same Honda setup that pulled out of the sport that returned so who knows how things will shakeup? Part of me will be delighted tho if RB Powertrains fail, Can’t say I’m Fords biggest fan for various reasons
     
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    :hehe::hehe::hehe::lol:

    2026 could be a scorcher. I didn't realise they were also ditching ground effect, I thought aero-wise it was just flappy wings and a bit of a shrink. Could be almost anyone's game, but when I say almost I think we can count out Cadillac, Haas, RB jnr and alpine for definite.

    Whatever hand Audi has had in steering sauber back the second half of the season, they could push up to a decent midfield team, maybe a podium or 2, but probably too early for a title run.

    Aston Martin have Newey, alonso and a huge pile of cash. :grin: But they also have lance stroll"s off a a cliff" :rollingeyes::duh:

    Williams, wow what a turnaround. 2 great drivers, a TP who knows wtf he's doing and really pulled them up, could be one to watch.

    A lot depends on their engine for red bull. Even sans Newey they've got the team and talent for a good aero package, but the engine and second seat syndrome likely to be what determines their season.

    Mercedes never really got along with current gen cars, from the size zero pod fiasco they never really recovered. Have too many prominent people left for them to still be that mercedes?

    Ferrari, well, maybe we should just count them out for definite too, seeing as they're run by clowns. They will either listen to Hamilton and get somewhere, or they carry on business as usual and fudge more golden opportunities

    McLaren have to be favourites going into next season. The team as a whole are really on song, 2 on form drivers, Merc powertrain which shouldn't be too shabby. They've found out they can win, and that belief will be a huge bonus for them.
     
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    No DRS though so expect lots of trains.
     
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    Somewhat ironically, in terms of points and podiums it was mercs most sucessful car of this ruleset.
     
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    I suspect Mercedes could be title contenders with the Engine alone. If the Hybrid era repeats and reliability is a factor then it might come down to which Merc customer blows up the least rather than which car is the best. All reports have Merc sitting comfortably in terms of power for quite a while, hopefully (or not depending on your alignments) they haven’t rested on they laurels or been exaggerating while in complete chaos behind closed doors.

    Ferrari as well, normally you could write them off but there is every chance the engine is good tho the team seems to transcend planes of incompetence and could ask McLaren to hold their beer while they show them how c*** ups are truly done

    pre season will certainly be the one to watch. Early call but Williams in a title challenge anyone?

    I wonder if Jonathan Wheatley is kicking himself for not staying around a bit longer to get that TP role at RedBull, he is someone I’m watching expecting big things from at Audi. On that Audi have shown Apline levels of incompetence with how they first entered but didn’t quite followed by ripping up the plan several times before finally getting their manure together and turning it round. I really donno what to expect.

    Thomas the tank engine with plenty of smoke being emitted out the top
     
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    Yeh I'm hoping Williams are up there. Would be lovely to see them come back to the front.
     
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    Having Mekies in charge really does kinda hammer home how much of my personal disdain for RBR was driven by my dislike of both Whinger Spice and Helmut the Helmet.

    GP is still a bit of an arse tough... and the less said about Mr Wife Beater the better...


    Glad to see Vowles and Williams doing well,... If you said at the beginning of the year Sainz would have more podiums than Hamilton no-one would believe you... Likewise Antonelli.
     
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