Motors The Official bit-tech Formula 1 2005 Season Thread!

probably just running a strange camber or something. Dont think it had much to do with the tyre itself tbh

 

Or the body work was rubbing against the tyres. Whatever the problem was, the fact that Williams had five failures during the weekend and none of the other Michelin teams had any failures during the race points to the car as the cause of the problems. A shame, really, as Williams could have got a few points today.

 

SPA this weekend!

What do you get when you have the best racetrack in the world, 20 F1 Cars a barrel load of Rain? The Belgian GP, that's what!

If 2nd free practice is anything to go by, it's going to be one hell of a slippery race

 

Always loved SPA, best racetrack in the callender.

 

Spa is the best track on the calender, by far.
Heres the quali line up Looks good!

Starting grid for the Belgian Grand Prix

1. MONTOYA McLaren 1m46.391s

2. RAIKKONEN McLaren 1m46.440s

3. TRULLI Toyota 1m46.596s

4. ALONSO Renault 1m46.760s

5. R.SCHUMACHER Toyota 1m47.401s

6. M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari 1m47.476s

7. MASSA Sauber 1m47.867s

8. BUTTON BAR 1m47.978s

9. WEBBER Williams 1m48.071s

10. SATO BAR 1m48.353s

11. COULTHARD Red Bull 1m48.508s

12. BARRICHELLO Ferrari 1m48.550s

13. FISICHELLA Renault 1m46.497s*

14. VILLENEUVE Sauber 1m48.889s

15. PIZZONIA Williams 1m48.898s

16. KLIEN Red Bull 1m48.994s

17. DOORNBOS Minardi 1m49.779s

18. ALBERS Minardi 1m49.842s

19. MONTEIRO Jordan 1m51.498s

20. KARTHIKEYAN Jordan 1m51.675s

* forfeited 10 places due to engine change

 

W00t, what a race.
Great start, and thankfully Trulli held a few people back at the start.
Fisi was suprising quick for the opening bit of the race, overtaking a few cars, until he wiped out at el rouge.
Good idea for Kimi holding up the pack on the Safety car pit streak, and the commentaters didn't notice this, but Villeneuve held up Alonso and others after that first round of pits.
Now with obvious sarcasm, it was a real shame for Sato to hit MS off track, taking them both out of the race, and IMO MS was a little harsh to Sato considering the unpredictable track.
Ralf was suprising, but was stupid to gamble and take on Slicks so early, as was Massa.
Button was superb as always, two brilliant overtaking moves on Villeneuve and Rubens, and by far the best driver on the track today.
Montoya and Pizzonia hit each other, but I'm not sure what happened here, but its a tad annoying, I wanted that Mclaren one two.
Nothing much more to say, other than Kimi drove well, and took the win like he needed to, nevertheless he won't win the championship, but just wait for 2006

Here are the results of Spa.
1. RAIKKONEN McLaren 44 laps

2. ALONSO Renault +28.3s

3. BUTTON BAR +32.0s

4. WEBBER Williams +1m09.1s

5. BARRICHELLO Ferrari +1m18.1s

6. VILLENEUVE Sauber +1m27.4s

7. R.SCHUMACHER Toyota +1m27.5s

8. MONTEIRO Jordan +1 lap

9. KLIEN Red Bull +1 lap

10. MASSA Sauber +1 lap

11. KARTHIKEYAN Jordan +1 lap

12. ALBERS Minardi +2 laps

13. DOORNBOS Minardi +3 laps

14. MONTOYA McLaren +4 laps

15. PIZZONIA Williams +5 laps

16. TRULLI Toyota +10 laps

17. COULTHARD Red Bull +26 laps

18. M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari +31 laps

19. SATO BAR +31 laps

20. FISICHELLA Renault +34 laps

 

great race today pitty Sato took shuey out tho

 

Anyone found out what happend to montoya?

 

From ITV-F1, bout montoya.

McLaren-Mercedes top brass have said that Juan Pablo Montoya was an “innocent victim” in his collision with Antonio Pizzonia at the very end of the Belgian Grand Prix.

The team lost a certain one-two, potentially its first such result in five years, when Pizzonia tangled with Montoya while trying to unlap himself four laps from the end.

The Williams was much faster than the McLaren at that stage as it had just pitted for dry weather tyres, whereas Montoya was nursing his intermediate-shod car to the flag.

The stewards blamed Pizzonia for the incident and imposed an $8,000 fine.

"Both (McLaren) drivers put in a faultless performance today which should have given the team maximum points,” said team boss Ron Dennis.

“Juan Pablo was the innocent victim of other people's mistakes but this should not distract from his race which was executed with true team spirit.”

Dennis’ Mercedes counterpart Norbert Haug was also highly supportive of his driver.

“Juan Pablo did a brilliant job and didn't put a foot wrong throughout the weekend,” said Haug.

“I feel sorry for him as the accident was not his fault."

Although McLaren’s management rarely criticise drivers in public, Montoya has incurred their wrath on a few occasions this season, notably when he crashed in qualifying at Hockenheim, and after tangling with Tiago Monteiro in the closing stages in Turkey.

Pizzonia apologised for the incident, but suggested that Montoya was at least partially at fault.

“He was quite slow, maybe because his tyres were not good anymore or maybe he was just cruising to the end of the race,” said Pizzonia.

“I thought he saw me and when he braked really early I thought he was trying to let me by.

“I put my car next to him but obviously he hadn’t seen me because he turned into his normal line and I couldn’t avoid the crash.

“I am sorry for him because I am not here to destroy anyone’s race.

“I destroyed my race too."

Montoya led the first 32 laps of the race before dropping behind team-mate Kimi Raikkonen during the final pit stop sequence.

Dennis’ reference to Montoya driving “with true team spirit” would appear to suggest that the manner in which the Colombian lost the lead was part of an orchestrated team strategy.

While Raikkonen put on a spurt on his in laps, Montoya’s pace dropped significantly after his own stop.

 

Was a good race, I watch with Highland3r + housemates. Good to see the championship is still close.

 

Can't beat SPA, always a good race, and a wet track just adds to the fun.

 

Jenson, BAR.
United for 2006

Apparently, a "cash deal" was done with Williams, and so he is staying now YAY!

 

£20m!

as a BAR fanboy, im rather chuffed about their lineup for next season

 

Whats the bet that BAR are crap next season and Williams go storming ahead then Jenson decides he wants to be at Williams rather than BAR.

 

It was on the cards from the start, TBH - And the loss of BMW was the clincher. Frank needed an engine supplier, and the money from Buttongate will go toward paying for his Cossie V8's next season.

Also, as soon as Williams started talking about Nico Rosberg, and possibly running him as soon as Suzuka, you knew they'd given up on Jense.

Where this leaves Sato is anybodies guess... Will he be happy to be a test driver? As that'll be his only option at BAR, as Antony Davidson is either going to Midland next year, or possibly SauBMWer.

 

/me prays for rain tmoz

Here is the grid for the race in Brazil

1. ALONSO Renault 1m11.988s
2. MONTOYA McLaren 1m12.145s
3. FISICHELLA Renault 1m12.558s
4. BUTTON BAR 1m12.696s
5. RAIKKONEN McLaren 1m12.781s
6. KLIEN Red Bull 1m12.889s
7. M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari 1m12.976s
8. MASSA Sauber 1m13.151s
9. BARRICHELLO Ferrari 1m13.183s
10. R.SCHUMACHER Toyota 1m13.285s
11. VILLENEUVE Sauber 1m13.372s
12. MONTEIRO Jordan 1m13.387s
13. WEBBER Williams 1m13.538s
14. PIZZONIA Williams 1m13.581s
15. COULTHARD Red Bull 1m13.844s
16. KARTHIKEYAN Jordan 1m14.520s
17. ALBERS Minardi 1m14.763s
18. TRULLI Toyota 1m13.041s*
19. SATO BAR no time
20. DOORNBOS Minardi no time

 

Nice to see Alsono on top! Next two races look pretty interesting with the contrustor's being just 2 points apart.

 

Aye, Congrats to Alonso, he does deserve it. Mclaren really should get the constructers though
Next two races are gonna be good, Japan and China rock!

 

However, getting up at 6am to watch both races does *not* rock.

 

That's all part of the fun