The Physics Processing Unit

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by RotoSequence, 8 Mar 2005.

  1. RotoSequence

    RotoSequence Lazy Lurker

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    Coming to a PC near you...

    More here.

    Sounds cool to me :hip: Too bad we're going to need a third add in card now for our PCs. Theres another article at the inquirer now too as well; Check it out!
     
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  2. Froggy

    Froggy What's a Dremel?

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    Yay are CPUs are getting lazyer than me!
     
  3. Techno-Dann

    Techno-Dann Disgruntled kumquat

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    Nah... They're just too busy trying to think at massive clock rates to be bothered with physics.
     
  4. Tolsk

    Tolsk What's a Dremel?

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    sounds kool, but tell me, will you be able to overclock these :naughty:
     
  5. Twunka

    Twunka What's a Dremel?

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    great now once this comes out there wont be anyway to stop online cheaters with grav hax aplenty its gonna sux
     
  6. Froggy

    Froggy What's a Dremel?

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    lol
    n00b1: "omgwtf that was a headshot!!111"
    n00b2: "no my PPU said the wind at 5mph south caused your bullet to stray off coarse 2.223 degrees and therefor miss and ricochet off the metal door behind me and then kill your teammate."
    n00b1: "**** i should of updated my drivers :( "
     
  7. dead_man

    dead_man Confucious say: WTF???

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    i personally am sick of all these new "chips" which are designed to take the load off something. lets wait till we need to pay $400 to display video, another $500 for the physics engine, $350 for the CPU, $100 for vertex shaders and then well have a east and west bridge on the mobo.
     
  8. planki

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    haha quality!!
     
  9. ehrnam45

    ehrnam45 What's a Dremel?

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    well, the integration of that would allow peeps in the mid-range market with less powerful processors enjoy a higher quality gaming experience, as well as simplify the development cost for software. If it costs $5 to add to a board, but saves me $5 in game purchase cost, then it's a win for me.

    with the exception of your suggested price for the PPU, there's lots of peeps that pay as much or more for the other parts...
     
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    sheardjr Minimodder

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  11. Guest-16

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    All we need is hardware physics and hardware raytracing :thumb: :thumb: should be good.
     
  12. ehrnam45

    ehrnam45 What's a Dremel?

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    oof! considering that it takes a large render farm to pull off good quality ray tracing in anything resembling real time, i won't hold my breath :p
     
  13. Guest-16

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    They've already developed a raytracing chip - it's only currently powerful enough todo Quake 1 engine atm though :)
     
  14. bort

    bort What's a Dremel?

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    I'd go and buy one, only if 90% of the games supported/needed it and the price was good. If its turns out to be like Nvidias SLI where the drivers must support your game (and not all games) I wouldnt think of buying it
     
  15. ehrnam45

    ehrnam45 What's a Dremel?

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    doh! stupid technology, always getting better when i'm not lookin!
     
  16. specofdust

    specofdust Banned

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    From what I've read, the technology isn't really going to do anything usefull for us lot. Since by the time the raytracing hardware can do quake 2 or 3, we'll all be using conventional stuff on quake 4. Plus, conventional tech has massive investment, raytracing less so.

    As for PPU's, it could be usefull, that remains to be seen I guess.
     
  17. Scorpsel

    Scorpsel Imaginary Time

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    Oooh, overclocked physics.. would that give you stronger gravity and blueshifted light? :hehe:
     
  18. ehrnam45

    ehrnam45 What's a Dremel?

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    lmao! that's like overclocking your TV: i.e. i'm sure you can find a way to do it, but wtf would u do it for? Like, have you ever heard of someone overclocking an off chip FPU?

    i think some of you are missing the point. Depending on the implementation, it makes a standardized library of functions that some group of delvelopers agree will be useful. If you have programming experience, it's the equivalent of using assembly language for high-speed routines instead of wasting overhead with a higher level natural language compilation. Translation: it's a shortcut for repetitive complex operations that free up the main CPU core for other stuff like more geometry manipulation (more polygons per model, smoother animation etc.). Mmmh, more geometry manipulation...

    The fact that the servers compute the physics is great for online gaming, but not all games have online multiplayer.

    Rather ironicly, GPUs have pushed away from this method by adopting CPU-like programability instead of hard wired routines...
     
  19. Guest-16

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    Yea, they were just developing a chip to show that hardware raytracing could be done, not directly for consumer implementation. But the theory is there and hopefully one day we'll see movie graphics/true lifelike images in realtime.

    What worrys me is the stupid stupid people who want to ban games and blame them for all violent crimes. If games become more real in every aspect then instead of your 80s 16 colour 2D platformer that didnt matter if you were violently hacking people to bits we're gonna have more real death and violence which, for the normal person, they can differentiate between virtual and real worlds but these "lobby groups" cant seem to see that.
     
  20. LAGMonkey

    LAGMonkey Group 7 error

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    Well having made an arse of myself and posting a similar thread almost a day later than you roto (shakes fist) ill just continue over here :).
    First of all it says that there are going to be two versions of this new add in card. one for PCI and another for the spanky PCIe, this says to me that one would be better than the other are the PCI interface is somewhat....old now and lacking in bandwidth for this sort of application (coorect me if im wrong please). Second i realy like the idea of this although it would mean more money would be required for the hardware as long as it delivers visable results and a drop in software price (evan if by about £2).
    One of the other conserns i have with this is that the device needs 25watts to run, which can be delivered by the PCI slot but its not an ideal situation so i would suspect that a molex will be on it in some location meaning that im going to have to get another beefier PSU.
     

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