Rant The start of the end, the death of megavideo

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16642369

Here we go SOPA starting to get power now!

 

Bullshiz. This is unrelated to SOPA. MegaUpload was more or less asking for it.

 

I know but it's stoking the fire

 

I agree with coffee, MegaUpload were one of the strongholds in filesharing. What happens now? We'll just have to watch.

 

Well this will hurt the modding community of many games.

 

Megaupload is just one of many of these file hosting sites,

This wont dent the file-shares much, they'll just move to annother site, they already provide lots of options on there websites linking to many of the hosting sites.

 

The only way to ever stop sharing is to literally turn the internet off, and remove all networking capabilities from everything, and start making hard drives as read only.
The more they tighten the grip, the more will slip through. MAFIAA™, you lost already, accept it.

 

i don't really see how this has anything to do with SOPA

and i don't have much problem with mega upload being shut down, the US justice department claims mega upload knowingly allowed people to upload illegal content and then allowed the illegal content to be publicised.

to me that's fair enough, i mean you have to be naive too believe mega upload didn't know that some of its users were doing this.

people like to romanticize mega upload and other sites like it, but to be honest the people who run mega upload are just as greedy as the film industry and the record labels who are campaigning for SOPA.

 

You should. Megaupload complied with all DMCA take-down requests, and removed any material they knew to be in breach of copyright by being there. They operated on exactly the same model as youtube in this regard, it's just they were a file upload site as opposed to just a video upload website.

Also, you trust what the US justice department says?

Now of course some megaupload users were using the service to share copyrighted materials, just as many google users are, and many e-mail users are, etc. That doesn't mean that we get rid of these things.

 

Ok it might not have anything to do with SOPA but it sure would be on their agenda, for something like this to happen, especially with so much media attention focused on SOPA at the minute it will certainly get a lot of people thinking.

 

i don't blindly trust what the justice department says.

but i don't find what they are claiming to be that outlandish, perhaps i am too cynical but i can't help but believe mega upload willfully allowed illegal content to uploaded and publicized.

for the rcord i don't support SOPA,
but on the face of it these arrests and charges seem fair enough to me, but i am willing to change my views as new evidence emerges.

 

And anon responds in expected manner http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/01/megaupload-shut-down-by-fbi.html MPAA RIAA deptment of justice and UMG all ddos'd

 

Actually, there is a simple way for these websites to defend against such attacks from US govt, even if the owners of the company get detained. And the solution is - don't use .com, .net, .org, .us or any other US based domains. That way until SOPA/PIPA will go through they can't just shut down your domains, like they can do in case of the .com & other US domains - they just need to bring a paper signed by judge to Verisign (or other TLD handler) and your domain is gone. With non-US TLD, US judge cannot order non-US TLD handler to remove your domain.

And about the "illegal content" - well, there is not too much you can do as a server owner. Sure, if they don't comply with DMCA takedown notices, then they break the law, but until then it is very hard to control copyright from technological standpoint.

 

This.

They provided an online storage solution and they worked within the DMCA laws provided. It didn't advertise itself like Pirate Bay does and because they didn't pay extreme sums for lobbysts like Google do, they couldn't keep their business going. They did profit from it, true, but then again so does Google and Dropbox. I don't agree with the wealth of illegal content put on there, but they provide a service. Should the makers of software like bit-torrent and video conversion software be arrested too? What about the makers of hard drives, USB keys and SSDs? After all these are storage mediums too. I look forward to seeing the outcome of the trial, and I hope it's at least heard fairly.

Alf - "Greed"? Since when is running a successful business and making money a crime? Of course they knew what users were doing but - as far as I know right now - they were operating within the direction of the law. Does the law require them to be censors outside of DMCA? Like ISPs too. How many people would they need to employ to scan the millions of files - and part files - uploaded daily? If they were found not to be, then I will take the other side of this argument.

 

well the the justice department is not only claiming mega upload willfully allowed illegal content to be uploaded and publicized, they also activity encouraged it and based their business model around it.

of course whether people believe this is up to them, as i personally stated i may be too cynical but i am willing to believe it, of course if it turns out that these claims cannot be proved or if evidence exonerating mega upload is found i will change my views.

as for my greed comment, it is based on the assumption that the justice departments claims against mega upload are true, as if it is they are, it means mega upload is making money of copyright infringement, my comment was also direct to one of the men arrested, Kim Schmitz, who is a greedy scumbag regardless of the outcome of this whole thing, he is also one of reasons i can't help but think the claims against mega upload are true.

 

If this is the case then I will fully support the justice department. Like I said, I want to see the outcome of the trial and the evidence.

I take back what you said about the greedy part then. I don't know anything on Kim Schmitz and his/her compatriot.

 

yeah it is best to wait for the trial and evidence.

i may have been a bit OTT with the condemnation lol

 

http://venturebeat.com/2012/01/19/megaupload-indictment/

This puts a whole new swing on things! Again, being rich is not a crime, but they clearly weren't exactly taking the moral high-ground as you said Alf.

 

Perhaps it's time to adapt those IP laws instead?

As for the seized property, I'm pretty sure this is par for the course for rich "kidz". It's not tasteful, but certainly not illegal to have license plates like "GOD", "STONED" or even "GUILTY" (of being rich?)...

 

what a waste of such classic cars, instead of impounding them, send them to me as i would make better use of them
1957 Cadillac El Dorado, VIN 5770137596;
1959 Cadillac Series 62 Convertible, VIN 59F115669;
1989 Lamborghini LM002, VIN ZA9LU45AXKLA12158, License Plate No. “FRP358”


also do you remember a few years back when the same thing happened to pirate bay, they day they were shut down they were back up and running again