Multi The World Of Tanks thread

Discussion in 'Gaming' started by octoberfest, 17 Feb 2010.

  1. Cthippo

    Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag

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    What comes to mind is MC Hammer singing "Can't pen this".

    I need to go to bed :worried:
     
  2. SMIFFYDUDE

    SMIFFYDUDE Supermodders on my D

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    That team was full retard. I'm glad it's not just the European server thats full of players who suck ass. Any of those T-50s could and should have killed it fairly easily.
     
  3. legoman

    legoman breaker of things

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    Passive scouting for you :lol: Just rolled up behind a fence an sat there pot shotting things

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  4. Tynecider

    Tynecider Since ZX81

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    Nice!!!

    I have yet to master the spotting, got a chinese light on the go right now.

    Some recent-ish wins.......

    With premium x2

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    Without premium...ARGGGGHHH NOOOOOO

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  5. obaidbd

    obaidbd Minimodder

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    Happened 2nd time with me in this week. :duh: Can't do more after all its a team game :sigh:

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  6. legoman

    legoman breaker of things

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    I wasnt actually trying to spot i just parked up behind a bush because i wasnt going to go frontline in the BlackPrince, ended up with a medal :D
     
  7. Cthippo

    Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag

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    I don't know, that's pretty consistent with my experience in the T50. it's fast as hell, but you might as well leave the gun at home for all the good it does you on the battlefield. Even most SPGs take three or four rounds from a T50 to kill, and everything else you could just forget about getting a penetration. I've had T50's circle my KV-1 pumping shots into it for minutes with no damage. I couldn't hit them but they couldn't pen me so it was a standoff that only ended when someone else showed up and whacked them.
     
  8. SMIFFYDUDE

    SMIFFYDUDE Supermodders on my D

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    Thats a KV-1 though, it doesn't a massive R2-D2 weakspot sticking out of it like the the 5 has. It would take a fair few shots but the KV-5s turret can't keep up with a circling T-50 so you have all the time you need to kill it.
     
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  9. obaidbd

    obaidbd Minimodder

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    Again happened with me today morning, 8 Kills but lost the battle :wallbash:

    before start of the game some moron in my team were talking about it will be 1 shot kill game for them :miffed:

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  10. teamtd11

    teamtd11 *Custom User Title*

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    Sometimes it is ok to call a noob team, that appears to be the perfect case, you got more exp than anyone on the winning team.

    Can not stand it when someone with 0-2 kills call a noob team.
     
  11. Fingers66

    Fingers66 Kiwi in London

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    It is quite normal for a player to contribute massively to a team effort without getting kills, usually you see it in damage caused or damage by spotting. If someone gets 6 kills but only causes a couple of hundred HP of damage, all they have done is benefit from the work done by others. If someone causes over 2k of damage but doesn't get any kills, they have done more for the team than others.

    Looking at obaidbd's effort, not only did he cause more than 4 times as much damage as anyone else on his team, he made 8 kills in the process. He is justified in calling everyone apart from the other top four players absolute morons/noobs, they did nothing in the match.

    This is another perfect example of good players being penalised, not just by facing harder enemies, but by being placed with useless team mates - a double whammy. Why? Probably because he had the temerity to have a good win ratio and WoT is determine to artificially level the playing field so that new players (read revenue) are not scared away.

    Edit: Just to clarify, I love and welcome the matchmaker putting good players up against harder enemies, it is how you learn and improve.

    However, because the matchmaker doesn't seem to be able to match individual skill levels between two teams, it makes your match harder by teaming you with lesser players. All this does is ensure a loss by making it doubly hard for a good individual to influence a match.

    It is almost as if the matchmaker uses an average skill/efficiency/win ratio across an entire team when making matches then randomly finds players that to fit a total average number. This results in maybe one or two good players (with high skill/efficiency/win scores) making up the bulk of the team average skill/efficiency/win score then it simply fills up the rest of the team with very poor players "to make up the numbers".

    Whilst it may work mathematically, due to it being a TEAM game that relies on everyone in the TEAM pulling their weight, it fails miserable and just ensures a loss for the good players. Maybe this is by design to stop good players getting skill/efficiency/win ratios that are significantly more than others and creating a uneven distribution curve of player abilities.

    The only way to lessen the impact of the matchmaker putting idiots into your team is to a) play tank companies with known good players), b) play clan wars with known good players or c) platoon with known good players. Basically any influence you can have on ensuring you have good players in your team will reduce the impact of the matchmaker's desire to reduce your win ratio.

    Platooning with known good players isn't foolproof as it is only 3 good players in a team of 15 but it gives you a better chance or countering the effect of morons in your team on your win ratio.

    Ultimately it is a TEAM game and while the matchmaker controls the assignment of players to your team, you are at the mercy of the WoT business model manipulating your stats so as to not put off new players joining the game - total player numbers is the holy grail of MMO's.
     
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  12. SMIFFYDUDE

    SMIFFYDUDE Supermodders on my D

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    The result table I posted at the top of the last page appears to be an annihilation of the enemy team, what it doesn't show was that most my team mates made no effort themselves to move from base. Only because of someone (me) eventually spotting inside their base and the enemy not having 2 brain cells to rub together did we manage to win. In my opinion my team was also noob and I say that having made no kills or having done any damage.
     
  13. obaidbd

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    KV1S or T150? which one to unlock first? :confused:

    not interested to unlock KV2 now as it leads to arty line.

    Cheers :thumb:
     
  14. Burnout21

    Burnout21 Is the daddy!

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    KV-1S is huge fun with the top gun, but painful grind to get it. Not gone the T-150 yet, unlocked but not purchased. It's a true heavy and can weather shots better than the KV-1S
     
  15. SMIFFYDUDE

    SMIFFYDUDE Supermodders on my D

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    KV-1S is the tank you should get first. T-150 is just a worthless filler tank shoehorned into the game to create a second heavy line and bump the IS-4 up to tier 10.
     
  16. Cthippo

    Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag

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    I went with the T-150 and it's OK. I wanted more armor over a bigger gun, but it was a painful grind to get the Zis-6. Haven't played the -1S, but might get the KV-2 soon-ish.
     
  17. obaidbd

    obaidbd Minimodder

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    Thanks guys !!

    I wanted KV-1S but on WoT forum most people suggest t-150 so i was bit confused. I think i will go with KV-1S first now :)
     
  18. Cthippo

    Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag

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    Let us know how you like it. :thumb:
     
  19. lilgoth89

    lilgoth89 Captin Calliope

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    just got mastery ace on GW panther for LESS than 1k XP....
    THAT is the extent of the arty nerf...
     
  20. Fingers66

    Fingers66 Kiwi in London

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    LOL...

    You are never going to guess what I found?

    I was despairing how slow to turn and slow to move my GWPanther. I was then in a game and my team mates disappeared across the other side of the map - I couldn't see them on the mini map. I knew they were engaged with the enemy but I couldn't see any of them - weird I thought.

    Then I re-checked the equipment fitted and found that the 8.6 nerf had reset all my equipment mounted on the GWPanther to stock, apart from the gun. I was playing with stock tracks, engine and radio - DOH!

    Anyway, all equipment restored, it is still slower to move than it was (top speed nerf) and much slow to reload and aim but if you hit something, it does decent damage. Also, the splash radius increase means that I am getting more splash damage than I was, even if it is a little bit.

    I am back up to 50% win ratio on it, I may play a few more games to see if I can get 51% but will probably sell it soon, arty ain't the fun it used to be.
     

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