Blogs Thoughts on Cheating in Multiplayer Games

As a long serving Admin in BF2 of 4 years plus I have banned numerous cheats from wall glichers to bunny hopping rabbits and others using software such as murdercheats 187ci,there seems to be a growing community of cheats in online gaming BF2 being one f the worst games for cheating as even server admins cheat on some servers.

At one point ehere was and still is a community calling themselves the cheats community dedicated to cheating and hacking servers therbye spoiling games for all the fare minded players,One player tag springs to mind Battlefield god one of the main ones within this community who got great pleasure just looking for servers with good fair playing admins running no cheat servers and crashing the servers then leaving before he could be banned having hacked into punkbuster posting bad language and a message sayig this is the cheaters community we control this server I am battlefield god you have been hacked by cheaters community seconds later the server crashes. how sad and stupid are these people in my opinion the fun in online or single player games is the challenge if a game is hard to beat persevere with it dont cheat sorry for the long rant i hate cheats of any kind that includes bunny hopping which in my humble opinion is cheating

 

I was an admin on a CSS server for a while. The cheaters ranged from players who were good but wanted to be considered Legendary, to numnuts who had an aim bot that whirled their weapon around like mad, and had NO skill.
For the most part, cheaters are kiddies with Ego problems trying to look big, just like bullies in the playground.
I don't even play CSS anymore because I've grown tired of the cheating. These days I play on PRIVATE servers with my friends - saves all the endless cheating BS.

 

Side Note: The Hidden is an awesome mod. Too bad there aren't more people that play.

Also, cheating in a multiplayer game is just stupid. I do not understand how it doesn't get ridiculously boring after a few times. Enjoyment in multiplayer games normally comes from actually being good at the game, or at least being bad at it with other people.

 

I once played naughts and crosses against myself and lost!...cos I later found out that I'd been cheating..honestly you can't even trust yourself these days. Having muliple personalitys is great when your bored cos you've always got someone to talk to but its a nightmare when you have to get the bus and have to pay 13 fares.

 

People cheat for various reasons, however one of the most common you come across is the 'everyone else is doing it, so why shouldn't i?'

The other one is kids who start playing a game that others have been playing for years and want a short-cut to being as proficient as the veterans - they can't be bothered putting the hours in to practice.

I've played a few different multiplayer games competitively in organised leagues etc and can't stand those that would consider cheating to gain an advantage in something that is supposed to be fun and a test of ability.

The only reason that CS source is constantly in the top sellers is the number of vac banned cheaters purchasing their next 'hax' account...

 

The problem with this type of server administration is that many players view the tactics you talk about as legitimate.

Bunny hopping - just because it's not realistic doesn't mean it's cheating - it's not cheating in the way Joe's talking about since it's just doing anything anyone can do from a stock game.

MW2 was badly thought out in terms of cheating - VAC is good but when you can have cheats that just slowmo the game or give you godmode you know something's up - also there was a time when there was a CoD keygen that worked with Steam, which just meant that the non-instant bans could be completely mitigated.

 

Don't mean to get OT, but it's consistently one of the most played games on Steam. MW2 rivals it a bit, and 1.6 sometimes Source a run for its money, but people do play the game. Even with an arbitrary (yet I consider safe) 10% being cheaters you get more legitimate people playing CS:S at any given time than many other popular multiplayer games.

 

Cheaters don't last long on our servers. Pop on by some time COD4 COD WAW, COD2

http://www.oghf.org.uk/news.php

 

Cheating in multiplayer = Worthless and pointless.
Anyone can win with a cheat, there's no achievement, no achievement = no fun.

 

True - i didn't mean to suggest that the majority of CS Source players cheat, just that the game is so big that even if only 1% of people are cheating, there will always be the demand for a new purchase of the game and a new steam account.

I would imagine that the vast majority of the player base have been playing the game for a while though.

 

I don't play online for precisely this reason, games like COD are no fun when you are a noob and getting shot from the other side of a wall cause your opponents are cheating, I have seen rfactor races where people deliberately ram others. This is especially annoying if you are 100 laps into a race and some idiot decides they can't be bothered so they go all stupid.

Hence I play co-op mostly via LAN with my bro against ai yes it perhaps isn't as much of a challenge but at least we know they arn't cheating (except in rfactor where the damn ai needs serious looking at)

 

They don't care!
They are either doing it purely to p!ss people off or, more commonly IMO, because they are stupid enough to believe that other players will think they are awesome; when they are actually sad deluded losers. I stopped playing MP when I started seeing wallhackers in TF2 going unchecked for hours, despite most of the server complaining.

 

I've never understood the mindset of a cheater - griefers I can kind of understand - I think its retarded but at least someone getting their jollies by ruining everyone else's fun makes at least some measure of sense.

But cheating to win - that just doesn't make sense to me - you can't have any sense of achievement in beating your opponents if you used some form of unfair advantage to get there.

 

People cheat in multiplayer game for the same reason they cheat in solo game, to feel strong without taking the time to learn. Or to piss people off have you never seen video of guy's exploiting burg to piss off a whole server on TF2? For exemple they used to have a TP sending you to enemy sentry or they used a glitche to block the spam door thus prevent the game to happen.

 

I think this tell all about what kind of person a cheater is.

The fist 30 days MW2 was a arsome game, then it startede to hav tomany cheaters, Im playing BCBF 2 now ( as Admin ) i know there is cheater -just look in youtube, but i seen any jet.

 

Lol you just don't belong in online gaming. This said it all, "it was more an acknowledgement of futility than an act of anger". I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing at the sad, mismatched situation you are in. People call it "rage quit" because they are too stupid to even understand what, "it was more an acknowledgement of futility than an act of anger" even means. To the average online gamer, that sentence wouldn't be any less understandable, if it was in ancient Hebrew.

There are a few rules you need to really come to terms with if you play online. Firstly, the average gamer is about 13. Secondly, the average gamer is an absolute moron. Thirdly, the average gamer is a total loser in real life, either has no friends, or just a few friends (who are just like him), and they certainly have never talked to a girl. Fourthly, they were badly raised by moron parents who don't really care about them and don't spend time on anything, so the kids, like the little sponges that they are, learned to behave from their peers, who sadly in this case, are other moronic little 13 year old online gamer losers.

So basically, you can't even reason with these kinds of people. They are beyond reason, because they are simply too stupid to even throw ideas and things around in their brains, and they are barely even able to communicate. All in all, I think it's best to just assume that most people you see in games, are not really people. They are more like some kind of furry sloth type animal from some remote island in the Indian ocean, that somehow managed to find itself in a Western family, and on the internet. It's not quite sure that it's actually playing a game, so it's fighting for it's survival like it's real life, and you are it's main predator. You could try to argue with it, but it will just grunt at you. You could kill it or abuse it, and that might make you feel better temporarily, but ultimately you will probably just feel sorry for it, when it looks up at you with it's pathetic little face, whiskers, shuffling in the breeze. Personally I just try to pretend that they are computer AI characters. It's like a kind of denial, I try to pretend they aren't even there.

The interesting/sad thing for me, is that I'm old enough that I've actually seen it all change. I was there on day 1 of the interweb, and it was a completely different experience. I used to play Quake with my speedy 33.6k modem. I didn't come across many foreign people because the pings were just too bad on international servers, so I mostly played with other Brits. The way people behaved was truly shocking compared to how it is today. Everyone called each other mate, and would laugh "haha" with each other. They would say, "Nice shot!" and were friendly with both their own team and the other team. They would say, "Night all" at the end of the session, and people, even strangers, would say Cya, or g'night.

After a while, mate became m8, and hehehe! became lol. "Nice shot!" became "ns", and "good game all!" became "gg". Another several months passed, and the "ns" and "gg" started becoming less and less common, and bickering started to appear.

Not long after that, I quit online FPS's and moved to EverQuest. That was the best vantage point of the decline of internet manners you could ever get. The early days of that game were an absolute dream, and everyone who played it in the first months of release, would say the same thing. Sadly, it will never be recreated again. Everyone chatted with each other, like they were writing home to mom. There was very little abbreviation, and everyone was friendly and respectful of each other. The game itself promoted it too, because it was so bloody difficult and brutal, people needed to work together just to survive. Strangers would team together and would have a good laugh together and a really nice time, and then everyone would add each other to their friends lists. Lots of long term friendships and relationships and marriages were started in that game, which is no surprise to me. Fast forward a year though, and it had completely changed. EverQuest had become a house hold name and every moron and his best moron buddy had joined the game looking to DoMiNaTe PpLz! The lameness spreads like a weird kind of plague through the game. People started being pricks to each other, and others stopped caring so much. It then all degenerates to the point where people just stop talking to each other, and there is no more chat anymore. People join guilds and it all becomes cliquey and people only talk to their own little clique, and f anyone else.

It was sad, but what was much sadder, is that this degeneration seemed to simultaneously happen on the rest of the internet at the same time too.

The way it is now, I can't even relate to most people online. I have to switch off from it all. I played WoW briefly and I still play other online games, but I just switch off from the chat completely. All I see is "Fail!" and, "U SUK! GEY!" and all that kind of thing. It's a real pity. It also has little to do with age too, as I've seen older people who are worse than any kid. Like the thread in the game section about these online RTS/Strategy kind of games, I've seen some real classic a.holes in that. I played the Heroes of Newerth Beta and it had voice coms so you could hear who was 12 years old, and who was 24 years old. The worst were the older ones for sure. The young kids were sometimes brattish but they were usually cute, and more interested in just playing, with the occasional bit of screwing around. The older ones were the worst though. People in their early 20's who think they are really special, and who take the games extremely seriously. Those people struck me as the worst of all. I think it may just be unavoidable now, unless you can play a game which has a small, private server community. I've played one game like that which was great for a few years, but the moderators slipped and manners slipped at the exact same time.

 

they're everywhere.. I used to run 2 cs servers back in the day and it was constant tweaking the admin mod back then to detect and blacklist keys.. even put in a chickenhead mod to turn suspected cheaters into chickens who couldn't shoot- all you heard was chicken noises and free frags

thing is in online leagues it sucks cause all those guys on top are hell of cheating.. we found that out in the ogl- played 2v2 and from rank 30 and up it was just every cheat in the book

I've tested a lot of the cheats and even found some on my own.. used to go into quake 2 with a modified ratbot that would send custom strings to the server so it wouldn't get detected- I only did it to slander certain people.. like I go in as another clans biggest d and then after fragging up a ridiculous number with rockets flying out of my butt- I'd spam their website and spew insults the whole time before logging out

go to their forum and watch the comedy.. I'd bring it in when a friend was on a roll too come to think of it.. he'd be setting a record too then bitch me out on icq.. wall hacks are pretty dirty but what's interesting is- you can learn a game so quick with a wall hack

you see how people play through the walls.. and even when not cheating you have that edge of knowing were people are at a certain time in maps.. in cs there was also a hack where you could make players glow bright green and red- that worked pretty well too and could get by punkbuster if the admin didn't take screens

I think the guys who go in and cheat to rack up a score and act legit.. they are total losers.. the griefing end of it is pretty funny imo

 

Cheating standard online MP ( strangers and what not ) = not cool

Cheating MP ( friends ) = Cool as long as people know

Cheating can be fun when its you and your friends being stupid and killing each other. But why you would do that against strangers is beyond me.

 

I've been playing PC MP games for what seems like ever.

If like me you become part of a community, you learn which servers are well admined, honestly i haven't seen tons of cheaters. The list of FPS games i have played is pretty large.

I was a BF2 Leader/Admin for over 2 years. About 80% of the time it was really good players being accused of cheating. The games that stand out for me was 1. Black Hawk Down 2. CSS.

The thing is cheats in games like CSS are so obvious, you can see it from a mile off.

The good cheats are usually paid for, which is really sad. At the minute i'm lvl 48 in BFBC 2 and i've only ever seen a few cheats. The reason for that is i play on only 2 servers, those servers are very well admined, so even if someone has a paid for PBBans Proof cheat running they won't last long enough on the server to ruin anyones game.

 

I don't want to get you on my wrong side but first you chastise a player for cheating and then you say it's okay to cheat in single player because you find it tough to get past a certain point and then you say I can see a point where it's okay to cheat in MP.... something about making pyramids... ???? you're a hypocrite!