Windows To Vista, or not to Vista..

forget Vista its not compatible with my USB rocket launcher


Edit: didnt see the new support, guess its time to upgrade i do have a free copy of vista bus lying around here somewhere, i'll buy the ultimate64 upgrade for cheap thru school.

 

These two links may help you decide to vista or not



http://www.trustedreviews.com/editorial/2007/01/07/The-Virtues-of-Vista/p1

http://www.trustedreviews.com/software/review/2007/01/30/Microsoft-Windows-Vista/p1

In my personal opinion Vista is more solid security wise to all other Windows operating systems.

 

Unfortunately, I have to agree with jawad. How many, severe viruses or malware outbreaks have there been with Vista in the 18+months it has been out compared to the first 18 months of XP?

Not that I'm saying that Vista is secure, just that it is more secure than XP was at the same stage of it's product lifecycle.

Andy

 

It is definitel more secure then Leopard its just that no one bothers with them, but yea i think im going vista on my next build. should be soon

 

@Shielder, it's not about JUST security, as I listed previously Vista offers a lot more.
XP had a lot of virus when it was released, due that majority of Windows NT virus, malware, spyware was fully functional under XP.

 

Vista sucks ass IMO.

And before you tell me to go use it etc, I've been using it for over a year and a half as my laptop has no XP drivers.

Vista should be more secure since it's been written with security in mind.
It did however make a lot of mistakes initially.
Since the networking stack was written from scratch they managed to re-incorporate some bugs that had been known about for decades and had been fixed in nix/xp etc for years.

As for DirectX not being software?
Don't be daft, of course it is.
You install DX, you upgrade DX, that makes it seem a lot like software to me.
GFX cards maybe be compatible with certain versions of DX, but DX itself is still software.

Efficiency?
Why would I want to keep on buying high-end hardware just to run an OS?
Gaming is one thing, but running an OS??

Let me put this to you.
What does Vista do that is so much better than XP?

 

I don't believe you, go use Vista uncracked.

Well you will always find bugs as long humans program it. For sure Vista has its small part of issues, like every other OS out there. But most problem are only in Vista 32-bit. Did you try Vista 64-bit by any chance?... well of course not.

Go learn what a computer is.

DirectX was already explain countless times by me and many others and you can find documentation that support our facts on the internet, including on Microsoft website.

So you have to say that to every company that made anything beyond those DOS program in monochrome. DO we REALLY need all these features, and UI, screw menus! Lets use those F# keys we have on the keyboard as they were intended. Why does notepad has a menu bar, it's a waist of resources, I am JUST running notepad, it must run on my 16K of RAM computer.

I made Vista run smoothly on a PIII 800Mhz with 256MB of RAM. You just had to disable everything down to XP.
Vista and all new versions of Windows and any other OS including Linux, takes more power because it has more features. More stuff you want the more computer resources it will take. Even having a blank button that does nothing takes more computer ressources, as it needs to draw the dam thing.

I already said the big list of big features of Vista, why don't you read it.

So far you insulted Vista without any arguments and facts... therefore you either never used it, or used it for 1 min with the ideas of Mac or Linux no life fanboy say without facts like you did, and the slight annoyance you go "Ahhhh screw it all it all suck, the loading screen doesn't have Windows logo! QUICK FORMAT before it loads!"

 

well said GoodBytes. most people jump to conclusions after they tryed 32Bit Vista for a short time. it's really a shame MS decided to push out 32bit Vista instead of going straight to 64bit.

you call Efficiency an argument? i guess you weren't around when they released XP

 

Pepsi, or Coca Cola?

Read, airchie. Understand. Now stop moaning.

 

dpellerin echoes my feelings, what a crap test with a crap bunch of people

 

Real men run DOS.

I cower before the cold logic of your rational argument.

Really, what is your argument? All I hear is moaning from people who have used perhaps a beta version of Vista for a few days, didn't like it, and went back to XP (because change is uncomfortable, mmmokay?); stories about how expensive it is for businesses to upgrade (which is not an argument about how good the product actually is), how the eye-candy is useless (why are you not running DOS like a real man, then? And what about Linux Beryl's eye-candy?) or the usual insults hurled at Micrsosoft and Vista users. "Vista sucks". Yeah, compelling reasoning.

Look, run what you want to run on your PC. I really don't mind. But if you want to have an actual debate or discussion about the relative merits of XP and Vista, please try to sound informed and apply some form of reasoning. Else it is just ranting.

 

They are people irrationally hating Vista who haven't even used it?

Edit: My beef is with the test and people, I didn't mention Vista?

 

No, but you mention dpellerin, and he mentions Vista plenty. So I was assuming that (as you say) he echoes your sentiments completely.

 

I read what was visible, after having investigated further it now seems you have to press a left arrow to open up further text below the part of the comment that is already visible, after having scrolled down the screen anyway to look at it. That sure is a badly designed and thought out site

As for his full comment, I'm dual booting XP and 64bit Vista, still can't decide which I like (more) ^_^

 

I think office 2007 is a great revision for people new to computing but i found it a pain in the a55 when moving from 2003 to 2007 after the GUI overhaul.

 

To tell you truth, I must agree.
But once I learned it, and discovered that Shift+Enter to actually go to line but stay in the same paragraph. I started to explore more, and now doing things that I never knew you could (especially that they are extremely easy to do) do with such editor in both Word and Excel.
Example, I can grab data from an HTML page like Yahoo\Google finance, and perform calculations on the grabbed values, and have it update the data downloaded automatically.

 

lol!
I really don't know how to answer that.
Do you want me to show you the invoices for the last three laptops I've bought that all had no option but Vista?
And what diff would it make if I did use a cracked version of Vista?
They're all functional aren't they?

I only tried 64-bit Vista once and it was early on when it was still rubbish so I can't really comment on it.
What's the main diff though, other than the ability to address more memory etc?
Surely both versions have the same features, along the lines of the ones you listed earlier?

Ummm, ok.
Sorry for not having a clue according to the school of goodbytes.
But seriously, DirectX is software.
Software installed to make it easy for game devs to interface with gfx hardware.

You mean like on the DirectX download page?
Didn't know you could download hardware.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a linux zealot that turns his nose up at anything but CLI.
I can barely use Linux yet but I'm learning.
What I do dislike, is bloat in software.
I would rather use NOD32 than Norton, notepad instead of Word (for simple text docs) etc.
I just feel Vista has gone too far with it's out-of-the-box bloat.

Fair enough.

I did read it, I just didn't see anything on it that made me think "wow! I must 'upgrade' to Vista immediately!".

Ummm, ok.
I wouldn't go so far as to say I insulted Vista but if I hurt it's feelings then I'm sorry.
I just don't like it and I feel I've been clear why.
Just because you like it, it doesn't mean your opinion is any more valid than mine.

As I said, I've been forced into using Vista with recent laptop purchases since MS is forcing OEMs to ditch XP (except for netbooks funnily enough).
I've been using it for almost 18 months now.
I've used every version of Windows since WFW3.11 and with the exception of ME, I've disliked Vista the most.
I'm no Linux or Mac fanboy since I've barely used Linux much yet and almost never had any experience of Macs.

I would thank Vista for one thing though.
Finally giving me a good enough reason to get off my ass, get out of my comfort zone and learn Linux.

I'm not moaning, just stating my opinion.
I feel even in a blind 'taste test' with Vista I wouldn't like it.
I'd maybe be more open to accepting the way it does things though.

The thing is, its not like I started out hating Vista.
I started using it with an open mind and genuinely wanted to like it.
I saw all the same advertising that goodbytes has sucked up and expected something amazing.
I just don't feel it was delivered which is why I'm learning Linux now.
I'm not here to moan or troll, just share my opinion.

 

And they said it was impossible. Another one on this forum who doesn't like Vista. Go figure.

 

Oh airchie, that tried now to look like the better guy...and be funny. I want to go on, but I won't.

 

Why not?
I was enjoying the debate.
I wasn't trying to make you look bad or berate you.
That's why I always put in smileys etc, so you know its nothing personal.