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News Tories want to tackle violent games

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by CardJoe, 28 Aug 2007.

  1. steveo_mcg

    steveo_mcg What's a Dremel?

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    TBH, he's the first electable torie in years and up until now most of what he has said has been at least partially sensible.
     
  2. DXR_13KE

    DXR_13KE BananaModder

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  3. LeMaltor

    LeMaltor >^_^

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    Are my eyes going funny or is what you quoted not on the thread? :eeek:

    Anyway there was no violence before video games. Fact.

    edit: whats wrong with the forums this isnt what i tried to quote o_O
     
  4. naokaji

    naokaji whatever

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    ban the bible ban the bible...

    the bible contains violence too....
    (and no, the books the other religions believe into are no better, they all contain violence too.)
     
  5. AngelOfRage

    AngelOfRage Minimodder

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    Why don't they just enforce a system like films? If some loser goes on a rampage and blames it on ultra violent, 18 rated movie, everybody would blame the store for selling it to him or the parents for buying it for him.

    Just another kneejerk reaction for MP trying to grab votes form people that don't know better.
     
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  7. [USRF]Obiwan

    [USRF]Obiwan What's a Dremel?

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    So all those arcade style fight games i played in the arcades in the late 70's and early 80's had made me a serial lunatic killer...

    I played Double dragon coin after coin after coin., where you could beat guys up with baseballbats and could beatup chicks with a whip... Although i liked whipping the chicks in the game. I (now was a adult) dont feel the urge to beat someone up with a basebat or throw some oildrums on someone...

    Its the blame the game for violance all over again, instead of blaming their own faulty system.
    And he is probably the kid that always watch other kids play in de arcade, but was ashamed to ask his mother for some "arcade investment"

    While we are @ it, why dont "they" blame it on all the kids who have witnessed the 1940/45 war in front of their eyes. They must be "extremly violent" after watching all those bombs fall around them and see all those nazi's shooting everyone dead around them. Its even more realistic then every videogame ever made.

    But nooooohh videogames are more violent. Because saying stuff about all other bad things is political incorrect and immoral..
     
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  8. Guest-23315

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    [ot] I also hate the way he tries to be seen as green. Stop the 4x4 hunting Dave! [ot]
     
  9. yakyb

    yakyb i hate the person above me

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    until they forcibly neuter Parents intent onletting there 14 year old kids wander the streets unobserved they problem will not go away

    my taxes go towards paying for these people to sit at home or go to the pub all day and then i get into trouble if i confront one of them

    humans are splitting off into two unique species and we are at a turning point there are the intelligent/semi-inteligent 'normal' people and the thick and lazy money grabbers who will happily have another kid because it allows them £40 (random number)a week extra child welfare at what point will we decide that the working (intentionally did not put the word hard) of us shall no longer support the ones who choose not to work (inc. those with false health claims)

    what gets me is that the people we pay to support can afford cigarettes surely this is a luxury(even tho i hate them) and should only be afforded by those that work
    Violence is an issue of class, education and upbrining not Computer Games (altho without the first three it could add) i have probably played (alot) more computer games than alot of the yobs out there yet im only ever violent at 3pm on a saturday (rugby matches).

    i urge Mr Cameron or Mr Brown for that matter to look into and heavily invest into getting people off there arses and stop providing them with a life

    anyway rant over
     
  10. cpemma

    cpemma Ecky thump

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    Cameron and Thompson are not alone in their thinking.

    Of course, parents can give their kids the character training, but against that you've got peer pressure and extremely powerful commercial interests with far more glamour than the parents wanting kids to spend money and telling them what they want to hear, always the most convincing argument.
     
  11. yakyb

    yakyb i hate the person above me

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    id go one step further into banning religion all wars around the world are religious.

    religion was a method of controlling the weak minded by the rich in the days before common sense
     
  12. naokaji

    naokaji whatever

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    i'd go one step further.....

    ban humans, humans have proved over the years that they often resort to unnessecary violence and havent learned form the negative effects wars and violence in general had.
     
  13. yakyb

    yakyb i hate the person above me

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    i would personally like to see enforced 2 year conscription for any person between 20 - 25 who has been unemployed (claiming benefits) for more than a year(without a really good excuse).
     
  14. steveo_mcg

    steveo_mcg What's a Dremel?

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    And common sense arrives here when?
     
  15. yakyb

    yakyb i hate the person above me

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    i dont think thats necessarily true i would never resort to violence unless violence was acted upon me i know that it leads to no good but is often only the way to deal with those whom know no better hence why i agree with the war on terror as there is no way (i can see) to reason with them

    I belive that alot of people do have common sense and choose to question what they are told as fact when they are young.

    we were told that Jesus did exist, God Ruled all and the universe was created by him but a lot of people chose to question that and i consider that to be common sense
     
  16. Ramble

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    You should not be elected in any country. Your views are a little too extreme.
    With the post above, you seem to have some kind of vendetta against people who rely on the government for support. true, there are abusers just like there are rich abusers (Enron?). They should both be punished.
    However, what you said was a gross stereotype, I'm sure some people who rely on support are honest hardworking people that perhaps can't work because of a disability, or are in-between jobs? Did you ever stop to think about that.

    Secondly, i dislike religion, and I always have but i'd never go as far as to ban religion (which would comprimise human rights). Religion isn't a cause of people being shitty to each other, ignorance is. I know many religious people who are non-violent, and many atheists who are violent. The reverse is also the same.

    it appears you consider yourself superior, you are not superior.

    EDIT: the above stuff you have posted while I was writing this is just too stupid at the moment for me to respond to in a proper manner.
     
  17. Nexxo

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    Actually, research has demonstrated a link between video games with violent themes and "aggressive behaviour" --for a given value of "aggressive behaviour". The problem is that you can only go so far in a laboratory environment --not quite the same as demonstrating that playing Manhunt makes you reach for daddy's gun and go show those punks at school who's theirs. The other problem is that such experiments tend to disregard much more powerful and long-term influences such as culture, upbringing, media exposure, peer pressure etc.

    I'll write an article for Bit-Tech about it soon, seeing as it's my field and all.

    But it stands to reason. Basically in the '50s people worried about the harmful influence of comic strips, movies and TV. Now it is video games and the internet. The same basic question applies: what do you expose the kids to? That goes way beyond videogames, to encompass much larger sociocultural issues. Frankly it is a bit trite to worry about Manhunt when any kid can see graphic examples of violence in a soccer stadium, or in action movies, or on TV, or at home between mum and dad or on the local streets, or even in the "might makes right" politics of our governments.
     
  18. naokaji

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    sorry i forgot the sarcasm tags:D
    i wasnt really meaning that humans should be banned... i was just trying to get a point across that violence is not caused by games.
    comment on war on terror in spoiler tags... who ever gets easily offended dont read:
    as for the war on terror.. well... does it really matter who takes my freedom away?
    the isp censoring and restricitng what i do on the internet?
    the government undermining and removing all data protection and privacy?
    the government trying to remove all human rights?
    the government giving a **** for the constitution of their own country?
     
  19. Bungle

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    Good old Tories are jumping on the bandwagon aswell:rolleyes: I guess the days of innocent TILL proven guilty are truely in the past. Politicians love their scape goats.:wallbash:
     
  20. yakyb

    yakyb i hate the person above me

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    i purposely choose my words so as not to include any one with out a due reason for claiming benefits but it is all to often you hear of people abusing the system so that they can gain extra money from the government,such as the family who had never done a dys work in their lives who where recently moved into a £500,000 pound house to house their 7 kids.
    my GF's mother works with underage pregnancy a she tells of fantastic stories of Kids who obtained excellent GCSE results despite having kids to deal with because of help offered to them
    the banning of religion was probably a little strong but a do think a good look into what some religions actually acheive.

    oh and please do not call my posts stupid as they merely show my (strong) opinion on this subject which was sparked off by the anger towards the naivety of our government
    i truely mean no offense to anyone in what i say
     
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