Tottenham Riots

Call me ludicrous and outdated all you want. You are raging, but you are not trying to understand the enemy.

There is a simple and effective way to kill this off. Most of the rioting is being coordinated by internet social networking. So what do you do? Interfere in the network.

These people are following an ideology as sure as terrorists are. A more nihilistic and chaotic one, but it's a kind of ideology nonetheless, that stems from similar ignorance, fear, deprivation and rage. With terrorism, a powerful strategy turned out to be to educate the mothers. Wannabe Jihad martyrs have to ask their mother's blessing, and when she is educated she is much less likely to give it. It worked: terrorism dropped.

In Glasgow, a police project all but ended gang violence by rounding up arrested youths on a big hall and forcing them to speak to their mothers, and the mothers of their victims, who were often gang members like themselves. Corny, I know, but it worked.

Here? Approach the mothers of all known gang members and troublemakers in the area. Get them on Twitter, Facebook, all the social networking channels, on TV. Get them to appeal to their sons and daughters, and to tell them to come home. Get them to call them by their names. Inundate the networks with the pleas of their mothers and fathers and siblings. Remind them that they are not anonymous, but acting out in a stage in front of their families. It works. Trust me.

 

Just announced Cameron is coming home and chairing a COBRA committee in the morning

 

I think we're beyond tasers now.

Just heard someone on the BBC say the Met deal with this all the time.. I'm worry, what? They deal with maybe a few hundred protesters in a confined area, all who may just get a little mouthy.

This is vastly out of control and needs some major intervention.

No, they need to have that meeting now. Get themselves out of bed and into No.10. to start a plan. It's going to take them a few hours, get it done now.

 

They are not. They don't have a motivation apart from this is fun, and they are doing it because they can. If it was political, they wouldn't loot and they wouldn't burn. This is no Tienanmen Square or Broadwater Farm. This is just unprovoked violence because they thought that the Tottenham Protest turned into looked like fun and might be an easy way to loot a store and make a quick few quid.

Nexxo, I normally agree with you, but I think you're trying to read into this far too much.

 

I am absolutely ashamed to be from London right now.

 

Not those 12 gague shotgun tasers...

 

This actually sounds like a brilliant idea. Throwing these people in a prison cell for a few months so that they can come out again only to get bored and commit some more crimes, is what's really proving to be outdated, ineffectual, and increasingly ludicrous. It can't hurt to try anyway.

 

True..

And I've just found out a recent ex is pretty much sat next to a riot area and can't get out..

 

Why doesn't the chief of police get a couple of experienced officers 20+ years from here (Belfast) to come over and do some coaching for a week? Go 1980s on their arse.

I know the feeling of worry when you have a relative or friend in an area struck by mindless violence only too well, it is horrible but assuming those few have their wits about them they should be safe.

 

This is all stupid, come on cops sort it out

 

Brilliant!

Now then.. after we've deployed the water canon, tear gas, armoured vehicles etc and called a halt to the violence, THEN we can implement your master plan.

The flaw in your argument however, is that what you propose may well fix the NEXT generation, but it leaves us with disaffected 20 somethings setting fire to the country's capital which needs dealing with NOW.

Chances are though Nexxo, the mothers will tell you to **** off, but you sound like you're up to the challenge

 

rumours nick clegg was in Tottenham last night doing a meet and greet kissing babies!

 

Thank God! We're saved.

 

"However, a report in the Guardian Monday said that initial ballistics tests on the bullet found lodged in the police radio suggested it was police issue and therefore had not been fired by Duggan.

The IPCC said it would not comment on the Guardian report until all ballistics and forensic tests were complete."

source 1

source 2

 

What we are seeing on the news feeds right now though, has NOTHING to do with that. They probably don't even know who Duggan is.

I've just seen footage of chavs carrying looted goods out of a Jessops store in Birmingham.. tell me what THAT has to do with the shooting of Duggan?

 

I dread to think what is going to happen tomorrow if the army aren't about...

I don't want my city burnt to the ground.

 

This is essentially why it started, maybe not why it's carrying on. And it is relevant to the title of the thread! So it has SOMETHING to do with it.

 

If it wasn't for a random quirk of fate, I'd still probably be living scarily close to Mare St in Hackney. I feel for anyone living in London right now, I really do.

 

My ex saw the riot in Clapham begin..

I'm shitting bricks for her right now..

 

I live off Russell Square and people are being pulled off the streets to get them indoors.. Its like a flipping ghost town here. Just sirens. Apparently they keep trying to hit Oxford circus.

We've got about 20 people in the buildings foyer and everyone is saying the same things, ARMY.

I dont care if its escalation, I feel trapped in my own home.

The 24 hour store across the road is in darkness and the've removed the registers from the counter.

Wish I had my shotgun in London right now.