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Trump 45th, 47th US President - oh f***

Discussion in 'Serious' started by yuusou, 6 Jul 2020.

  1. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    the problem with wanting everything to burn with the aim of rebuilding from the ashes is

    - you assume you won't get consumed by the fire
    - you assume you're the one that gets to rebuild

    doesn't matter where on the political spectrum you are...
     
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  2. Risky

    Risky Modder

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    And when you start fires you don't know where they spread to. Fire is destructive and rebuilding always has costs.
     
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  3. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Lover of bit-tech Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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  4. Risky

    Risky Modder

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    Back on topic, there is an election that could be as consequential for some outside the US and their own domestic elections.

    If Trump wins he may well crash the world economy with his tariff plans. By simultaneously deporting millions he drive up inflation and then seek ever more extreme tariff and anti-immigration policies to avoid the blame.

    He will almost certainly abandon Ukraine and pull out of NATO or at least undermine it, resulting in many European countries having to make extreme chances in their defence posture, redirecting a painful amount of public spending to deterring Russian aggression.

    This will be a signal to autocrats around the globe do what they will as long as they say nice things about Trump often enough.

    China will be emboldened to move more aggressively towards Taiwan. An attack there would have frightening consequences.

    He has repeatedly said he wants to use the US military against domestic protest which could lead to missive domestic instability which could give him or those around him cover to take ever more anti-democratic steps.



    But I think it looks like he might not win. So all we have to worry about is a repeat of Jan 21, perhaps.
     
  5. Byron C

    Byron C I was told there would be cheesecake…?

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    Not to diminish what his supporters might attempt to do, but it's worth bearing in mind that he's not in office this time - he doesn't have the Office of the President of the United States at his disposal. I very much doubt we will see a repeat of the events we saw last time. They'll certainly try something, no doubt, but the machinery of government is well prepared this time, right down as far as state electoral boards/commissions.

    DC police, for one, are most definitely not going to be resting on their laurels - 174 officers were injured, 2 died of causes that were exacerbated by injuries sustained on the day, and 4 committed suicide in the months after the attack.
     
  6. David

    David μoʍ ɼouმ qᴉq λon ƨbԍuq ϝʁλᴉuმ ϝo ʁԍɑq ϝμᴉƨ

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    So, just the machinations of the Project 2025 working group, coupled with the complicity of SCOTUS, to worry about.

    Cool
     
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  7. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    Interesting. A usually accurate pollster, Selzer & Co, has Harris leading Trump by 3 in Iowa that Trump won in 2016 and 2020.

    Good sign.
     
  8. IanW

    IanW Grumpy Old Git

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  9. Byron C

    Byron C I was told there would be cheesecake…?

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    Fixed that for you :thumb:
     
  10. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Lover of bit-tech Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    Yeah, I saw that. I'm entirely unsurprised: ever since Pedo Guy got away with literally libelling a dude, repeatedly, then lied under oath that "Pedo Guy" actually means "creepy old man" (which is why I'm free to call Pedo Guy Pedo Guy without fear of reprisal), I've figured that there ain't a court in the land that'll hold him accountable. Money talks, eh?

    I'm still hoping that there's a chance a separate case for fraud is brought - given that his original announcement was very clear that the giveaway was "random," which his legal team has now confirmed it is not - but I'm not holding my breath.
     
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  11. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    I hope that man chokes on his ketamine.

    His is an obituary I'd read with a big-ass smile.
     
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  12. Risky

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    It isn't looking at all good
     
  13. Byron C

    Byron C I was told there would be cheesecake…?

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    Meh, we’ll get a result when we get a result, it took four days last time. I don’t have the patience for following the blow-by-blow analysis any more, I barely managed that with our own election.
     
  14. David

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    Seriously, America, what the **** is wrong with you?
     
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  15. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    Lol, America.

    Crazy.
     
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  16. ElThomsono

    ElThomsono Multimodder

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    No, not at all.
     
  17. yuusou

    yuusou Multimodder

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    Trump already projected to win Pennsylvania (by CNN), has already won Georgia and North Carolina, and is ahead in every other swing state.

    Imho it's already over and it's ****ing depressing.
     
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  18. ElThomsono

    ElThomsono Multimodder

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    I'd sure hate to be in Ukraine right now.
     
  19. yuusou

    yuusou Multimodder

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    He's been given PA. That pretty much seals the deal. He's 2 electorates away.
     
  20. Mr_Mistoffelees

    Mr_Mistoffelees The Bit-Tech Cat. New Improved Version.

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    Any remaining respect for Americans, gone now…
     
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