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Trump 45th, 47th US President - oh f***

Discussion in 'Serious' started by yuusou, 6 Jul 2020.

  1. Krikkit

    Krikkit All glory to the hypnotoad! Super Moderator

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    This and the Project 2025 stuff is what's really scary - Trump has basically bent over backwards to get these people to carry him in again, and now he's in they're owed their dues. Even the smaller things like RFK Jr. being influential in healthcare is horrifying.
     
  2. IanW

    IanW Grumpy Old Git

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    I hear Germany is re-introducing National Service, as they no longer trust the USA to fulfill its duties to NATO.
     
  3. David

    David μoʍ ɼouმ qᴉq λon ƨbԍuq ϝʁλᴉuმ ϝo ʁԍɑq ϝμᴉƨ

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    Understandable. You gotta wonder if the US will start to distance itself from NATO now and, if it does, how that will embolden the likes of Russia and N Korea. Putin definitely fancies a European land grab and won't stop at Ukraine if America backs off.
     
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  4. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    I think that's been on the cards since the turn of the year tbh.
     
  5. liratheal

    liratheal Sharing is Caring

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    I'm getting really tired of these 'once in a life time' events

    I'm not religious but I'm praying for a rapid, rapid, decline in health that puts him in the ground before I have to hear his shitty voice for another four years.

    It won't be better, but at least hating Vance will be slightly new territory.
     
  6. Cookie Monster

    Cookie Monster Multimodder

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    It's his weak fist in the air that gets me.
     
  7. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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  8. yuusou

    yuusou Multimodder

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  9. lilgoth89

    lilgoth89 Captin Calliope

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    This is what Putin has been holding out for
    Trump can say he put an end to the War, feigning strength to his supporters who will adore him for ending Wars, while legitimising Putin's ill gotten gains, and potentially having a Russian backed election to install a puppet government in Ukraine under Trumps watch
     
  10. TheBlackSwordsMan

    TheBlackSwordsMan Over the Hills and Far Away

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    Half the yanks have been exposed for what they truly were behind the pretenses, faux values, and empty patriotism. For the 1st time in my life, I don’t feel safe being neighbor to the United States.
     
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  11. liratheal

    liratheal Sharing is Caring

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    Well, he's old enough that if he died in the night the first thought is likely to be 'natural causes', so. It makes sense he can't raise his tiny, tiny, hands into the air and clench.

    I'd welcome news and damning evidence of massive election fraud that was sufficient to call it in Harris' favour, although she's no peach it must be said, but I suspect it's time to hunker down and watch the far right appear globally.

    I wonder which countries are going to go to war against it this time.
     
  12. IanW

    IanW Grumpy Old Git

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    Trump finally got his wish. His cult have now placed him above the law, so all those lawsuits against him will vanish into thin air.

    The worrying thought is that now JD Vance is a single heartbeat away from being left alone with the Oval Office couches! :eek:
     
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  13. Byron C

    Byron C I was told there would be cheesecake…?

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    If there were margins of less than 1% in key swing states then there might have been a chance of that. But sadly we are not in another Bush vs. Gore “they found another ballot box in Florida’s swamps!” situation.

    Even with Nevada and Arizona still left to declare, Trump is sitting pretty on 295 out of the required 270 electoral college votes and 51% of the popular vote. Harris conceded late last night (our time).

    So… that’s that. The people have spoken.
     
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  14. David

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    IFTFY
     
  15. Mr_Mistoffelees

    Mr_Mistoffelees The Bit-Tech Cat. New Improved Version.

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    Kermit would never have been that stupid…
     
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  16. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    Let's face it, as some voters said, they were less bothered about Beyonce than they were about paying for a house or groceries. Irrespective of anything else, some felt better off under Trump than under Biden/Harris (even though much of that was down to Obama's work beforehand).

    We can't just say they're stupid. If we ignore it just as that those behind it did in the US they will try to do the same over here with Farage and his ilk.

    We can't have that.
     
  17. Krikkit

    Krikkit All glory to the hypnotoad! Super Moderator

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    Still stupid though - economic shifts like this lag behind the choices taken by a few years, so Trump's first term was reaping the benefits of Obama's economic policies (and good times), then his tariff nonsense affects the first half of the Biden term, then Putin's safari hits us all hard with inflation which is now under control again, just in time for Trump to take over and take credit.
     
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  18. Mr_Mistoffelees

    Mr_Mistoffelees The Bit-Tech Cat. New Improved Version.

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    For too many voters, a loud, obnoxious personality also counts for a lot. Just look at how popular the idiot Johnson still is, whilst Starmer is very unpopular, as he sets about the long job of fixing the damage done by the Tories. Also, so many people want instant results in everything and, cannot understand the concept of short term pain delivering long term gain. Trump and Johnson promise the quick fix people want, regardless of long term consequences.
     
  19. yuusou

    yuusou Multimodder

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    It's worse than that. The solutions the offer aren't even solutions. They immediately create problems with long-term consequences. Increased tariffs? Guess who's gonna foot the bill. Reduced immigration? Guess why there's a shortage on produce. Reduced women's rights? Guess why population is aging and in decline.
     
  20. Mr_Mistoffelees

    Mr_Mistoffelees The Bit-Tech Cat. New Improved Version.

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    I'm well aware of all that.

    Hopefully, enough voters will realise they have made a mistake voting Trump and Republican, vote Democrat in the mid-terms in 2 years and, again in 4 years. Based on what's happened though, that's likely a long-shot...
     

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