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Linux Ubuntu vs XP on old PC

Discussion in 'Software' started by DarrenH, 30 Jun 2010.

  1. DarrenH

    DarrenH What's a Dremel?

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    I'm playing around with Ubuntu 9.10 on my current/old PC while waiting to complete my new build. I already have XP Pro which I've used on this system for 3-4 years. I have noticed a few main differences:

    (See my signature for old PC specs)

    You all know XP so this is from the perspective of using Ubuntu 9.10:-


    Pro's
    • Installation was simplest ever - no drivers needed for anything!!
    • Loads 4 times faster (even including the login) at 1 min.
    • Shuts down in 10 secs!!
    • Seems more stable (don't ask me what I mean - it just does)
    • Google Earth graphics much smoother when scrolling across streets - this surprised me!
    • Wifi works so much simpler and more stable.
    Con's
    • Seems sluggish in comparison
    • Limited choice of web browsers
    • Flash is very slow and youtube viewing is awful
    • More CPU and memory hungry (could account for sluggish feel)
    • Graphics can be very slow, especially 3D.
    • Google Earth photos are erratic and often don't display.


    These comparisons are on a single core chip. I cannot wait to complete my new build and test out the 64-bit Ubuntu 10.04. I will be using that for the first month until I then get Windows 7 to dual-boot. What experiences do you have on your faster systems?
     
  2. badders

    badders Neuken in de Keuken

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    With regards to web browsers, there are plenty for Ubuntu - Chrome/Chromium, Firefox (default) and Opera all run fine, and there are even a few lesser-known ones. A nice Speed test article is here.

    Chrome and Chromium have flash built-in, but for YouTube, I use the HTML5 version. Everything should be included in the PPAs, at least for Chromium, anyway.

    Graphics could be down to your graphics card - I had many problems with Intel integrated graphics on 9.10, but they all went away when I moved to 10.04.
     
  3. bulldogjeff

    bulldogjeff The modding head is firmly back on.

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    On a faster system the boot time will be really quick because ubuntu is so light you'll also notice how quick it jumps through program's, I know a few people who've switched to lime from xp and have never looked back.
     
  4. DXR_13KE

    DXR_13KE BananaModder

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    Try getting the restricted drivers for your graphics card. You can also try other window managers like KDE, XFCE, LXDE, fluxbox, openbox, etc...

    edit: notice that the flash player is available for download in your synaptic package manager, as is most software and games.
     
  5. DarrenH

    DarrenH What's a Dremel?

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    I know how Linux systems are supposed to be really good at multitasking and I'm looking forward to finding out just how good it is. The native 64-bit support should give me a great boost in performance. The built-in tcp/ip network functionality should be a great match with my 50Mbps broadband. In XP Pro I had to run a special TCP/IP optimizer for windows to accept such speeds.

    I don't know that it's light though. Unix/Linux systems always feel heavier but I think they are more scaleable. Windows gets bloated by patches, installed programs and hefty anti-virus software.
     
  6. bestseany

    bestseany What's a Dremel?

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    Isn't the new Flash 10.1 now available for Linux? I'm guessing that should improve things a bit.
     
  7. bestseany

    bestseany What's a Dremel?

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    Also, trying disabling the Compiz effects if it's running a bit sluggish.
     
  8. DarrenH

    DarrenH What's a Dremel?

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    No. The new flash won't install. It says it's not for my architecture (x386). I can still browse but under my old PC the flash ain't Flash! Gotta take the rough with the smooth..
     
  9. bestseany

    bestseany What's a Dremel?

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    Where did you install Flash from? Directly from the web or using the package manager?
     
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    bestseany What's a Dremel?

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    jaydeee What's a Dremel?

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    when everything will be online then I would 100% use ubuntu.
    Its the software compatibility thats only holding me to transfer...
    :sigh:
     
  12. 00parrys

    00parrys What's a Dremel?

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    I agree with jaydeee. I dual boot XP and the new ubuntu and I find myself booting to ubuntu if I need information quickly. The main reason that I boot into XP is if I need a specific program, but this is becoming less and less frequent.
     
  13. simonw

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    Flash performance on Linux is quite bad when compared to Windows. I have a tip when viewing YouTube videos though, I use the FlashVideoReplacer addon and gecko-mediaplayer plugin in Firefox. The YouTube video is then played with mplayer backend instead of Flash, and you will notice that it uses much less cpu cycles.
     
  14. The_Beast

    The_Beast I like wood ಠ_ಠ

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    Have you tried wine?
     
  15. jake9891

    jake9891 Loves Internet Shopping

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    I've been using Ubuntu as a main OS on my laptop for about one year, but that was few years ago. Started with Ubuntu 6.06 on my desktop and then moved to a laptop (dell vostro 1500) with Ubuntu 8.10 and I have to say I loved it. The good thing about it is that you dont have to worry about viruses as much as on windows OS, so there is really no need for anti-virus. Also, probably many users will agree, you got to love Compiz/Beryl :D I would love to go back to Ubuntu, but my current netbook isn't fully supported by it. At the moment I've got dual boot setup (Win XP/Backtrack 4). Win XP is used for most of the time, Backtrack 4 only for education purposes ;)
     
  16. 00parrys

    00parrys What's a Dremel?

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    I have not tried wine - haven't got around to it but have looked at doing it. The main applications I would be running are games, so I don't think wine is the way to go. However, I did find a nice guide on building a virtual XP machine inside linux, but I'm not sure how much of a performance hit it would take compared with a straight up dual boot.

    Pretty soon I intend on dual booting ubuntu and 7, having a virtual XP inside ubuntu to play some of my old games (and for the challenge). I already have a copy of 7 pro, and I know that already has some form of XP mode, but I heard that it's not that great for old games... I could be wrong though!
     
  17. The_Beast

    The_Beast I like wood ಠ_ಠ

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    Wine supports more games than you think it would. Defiantly try it out some time
     
  18. DarrenH

    DarrenH What's a Dremel?

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    You can't beat windows for speed as the components have more optimised drivers for them and Directx10/11 for Graphics/Audio. But the more I use Ubuntu the more I like it. It is just the little things like the awesome screen savers. They blow Microsoft's out of the water.

    I was at windows 85% usage (XP) and Linux (Ubuntu) 15% but am now at 55/45 and its getting closer all the time. Linux reminds me why I use computers in the first place - fun. Whereas Windows has always been the devil you know. Linux is not perfect but it feels fresh and unrestricted.

    Maybe Windows 7 on my new build may give me fresh optimism?
     

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