Motors umm you might want to check this video out

Its not but I can tell you it can be. I cant imagine why tho. Oh wait I know why, the dodge neon srt-4 is about 1grand more than the regular si and it has a 230bhp motor and a 250lbof tourque in it, To prove my point Here is the link.

 

As I said in the other thread, you are talking bollocks. I know rallying - I was brought up around it.

First point: Audi first competed in rallying with the Quattro in 1981 So you're lying by talking about the seventies.
Second point: Audi have only ever competed using the Quattro and Quattro Sport.
Third point: the Quattro and Quattro Sport had 5 cylinder, 2.3 litre engines.
Fourth point: What exactly are you trying to achieve by linking to a modern, high-capacity luxury saloon? That is not a rally car.

Seriously, stop lying and making things up - you are only making yourself look even worse.

*n

 

Ouch, Jaguarking just got pwned.

 

...again

*n

 

this thread is pretty much lame now
people are just using it to argue about anything...

and seeing as i am attention starved.........

the 'common' measurement might be imperial but for torque most of the world uses the metric system n/m^2 or whatever it is lol

erm... about cars, most cars come in lots of different weights depends on a whole variety of things and different bhp and torque from year to year... so arguing about that is pretty sad

also, car companies are always testing and prototyping new types of cars, especially back around the 80s when engine technology was starting to move forward a lot. so just cos a car manufacturer didnt compete in a rally is not proof they did not make a car... or at least meddle with the idea...

even if they did... it might have been crap, and it probably was, thats why they scrapped it...

also, you might be 23.2 high, but im 17 wide... cos i clicked on those increase your girth emails... so nurrr...

does lame kids driving civics make civics a bad idea? lame kids wear shoes too... so from now on im walking around barefoot...

im not sure what the 'sides' are in this argument (it seems to be a free for all lol) but im gonna end this madness with some closing words...

everybody knows japs are all about 'SMALLAH SMALLAH! FASTAH FASTAH!' so they makin their engines more efficient with technology, regardless of where that technology might have originated.

everybody knows american cars are all about big stars and stripes. that way you cant say the car sucks otherwise youll get beat up with the patriot stick... but still, americans are using the same technology in their cars too...

lets not let our pseudo-student attitudes get in the way of this...

now... what COLOUR car do you think goes faster? i think blue cars seem to be always faster...

 

the fastest car in the world is black

 

I went to Englishtown Raceway a few weeks ago and the blue Trans Am was killing all the red Mustangs. Then a blue Corvette raced the Trans am and only beat it by .03 seconds. Yes i think its safe to say that blue cars are faster.


(BTW this whole post is just total BS)

 

BTW powned or not they did have rally a8 quatros with v8 ranging from the 3.7L -4.7L and It startedin 94 not 80's as I thought.

BTW penski is just angry cuz there is no replacement for displacement.

 

But jaguar, you must be forgetting there is a replacement for displacement, its 8 turbos, 700 shot of NOS, a couple of rockets bolted to the roof, and some crazy guy that just killed his family.

 

WHERE?!?!

Do you know anything about rallying at all?

Do you know how big an Audi A8 is?

Do you know that there is not a category in modern (or early nineties) rallying to cater for them?

Lets see:

Group A: 2 litre, turbocharged. Ford Escort Cosworths and Lancia Delta Integrales.

Group N: 'showroom' spec. depending on the subclass, the most popular being 2litre turbo and 1600cc N/A

Of course you have 'clubman' classes which are, quite often, a homologation-free do-what-you-want in terms of rules but these rarely operate above a local level.

So are you expecting me to believe that a clubman used a £50,000 car (looking at over £100k prepped) that is far too big and cumbersome to be rallied anyway in small local events when he could have used a much cheaper and better-performing alternative such as a Metro 6r4, Ford Escort Cosworth, Integrale or similar? And that he did all this without anyone knowing about it but you?!

STOP LYING.

If you even think about saying that it was a Works entry, you're even stupider than I thought at first.

I can only think of two Audis rallied in the nineties: both private entries, one an A4 and one a Audi 90, both running 1.8T engines.

So your lies have gone from '70's and 80's' to 'from 94 onwards'...did you just happen to read about the launch of the A8 v8 or something?

*n

 

do you even know what an A8 looks like?

 

Only since he googled for 'v8 audi' and got the page he linked to earlier...

*n

 

yeah but thats a W12

 

the only problem with that is any page you link to in english is going to show an american car, and i hate to tell you this, even the 4 door models don't push over 3000lbs (even the page you show lists the si, which is the heaviest at 2782 range, sedans being in the 2600 range, and the nearest in weight to the si being the civic hybrid sedan at 2749), and the reason it shows 160hp is due to emissions restrictions that prevent most foreign manufacturers from shipping full spec cars to america.... seems while we might have a thirst for bigger engines and bigger vehicles, we also have some strange fascination with trying to make them more environmentally friendly.... which to me seems absurd, but whatever....

so a civic si in japan probably has closer to 200hp from the factory...

as for the W12 cars, there's a reason its 6L.... its effectively two 3L inline six's bolted together... as for a 5L Audi, the closest you get is 4.2L, and those are more recent A8 sedans, as audi V8s come in 2 flavors... 4.2L and 3.7L, and the new ones are only 4.2L... perhaps you were thinking about 2.5L audi's... which can be A4s, TTs etc... thats the only way I can figure 5 from anything unless you were thinking about 5 cylinder audi's

as for vettes, the z06 variants as of late I believe were in the 400hp range, the 2003 variant making 405hp to be exact... 55 more than the stock vettes... the 2005 model range standard vettes should be in the 400hp range


and yes, they're still a majority plastic/fibreglass

 

No its not. Its two VW VR6 engines bolted together...VR6 engines came in several capacities, the most common being 2.8l (Golf, Vento) and 2.9l (corrado).

*n

 

i own a bmw.... V6 DOES NOT EXIST!!!!

 

I'm willing to bet that a hard-tuned 1.3 litre Nissan Micra would beat almost any American "muscle car" on the roads in this country.

You know why? We have these things called corners. Oddly enough some cars are designed not to go sideways around them.

 

want a vid of a Micra owning a Evo?

 

too right i remember an episode of fifth gear in which they pitted a Nissan Sunny GTI-R against a Chrysler Viper and the Nissan won. Check it out here

which planet are you living on, loads of cars use V6s including Mustangs
and as for your 'explanation' of a W12 well what you described was nearer to a V12

 

i drive a bmw with an inline 6.. i'm well aware that v6's exist... i do after all own two cars with them..... the point is that i'm a bmw owner first and foremost...