Uncle Sam wants to tap your VoIP phone too!

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  1. Cthippo

    Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag

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    Dennis O'Reilly, PC World

    BURLINGAME, CALIFORNIA-- Several privacy and civil-liberties organizations are mounting a legal challenge to prevent VoIP and other Internet-based communications from being subject to taps from law-enforcement agencies.
    The group, which includes the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC), the COMPTEL association of communications service providers, the
    American Civil Liberties Union, and the Electronic Frontier Foundation, says it will fight the FCC's plan to expand the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA) of 1994. It filed a brief this week with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.

    The FCC's final rule, issued on August 5, 2005, would extend CALEA to all Internet-based communications, according to EFF Chairman Brad Templeton, who spoke at this week's Emerging Telephony Conference here, sponsored by O'Reilly Media. Once the FCC issues a final rule, vendors have 18 months to comply with it.

    Templeton claims that the CALEA expansion proposed by the FCC would "require that people get permission to innovate" and would also create "regulatory barriers to entry." "The
    FBI gets veto on new companies," according to Templeton. Another, more threatening aspect of the regulation is its mandate that a "back door" be built into all Internet-communications hardware and software to provide access for law enforcement agencies. This same back door could be exploited by hackers to listen in and record these Internet communications, according to Templeton.
    Existing Law Expanded

    In March 2004 the
    Department of Justice, the FBI, and the Drug Enforcement Agency petitioned the FCC to expand CALEA to cover Internet-based communications. The original statute applied only to calls made using the public switched telephone network.

    The FCC's proposal would require that all VoIP hardware vendors comply with the wiretap mandate within 18 months of the order's effective date, but Templeton claims that many router vendors have already added the wiretap capability to their shipping products, despite the fact that the FCC hasn't yet issued any instructions for doing so. Templeton adds that the cost of implementing this proposal will be passed onto the businesses and consumers who use the products.

    Among the politicians opposing the FCC's Internet wiretap plan is Democratic Senator Patrick Leahy of Vermont, the chief sponsor of the original CALEA legislation. Leahy says the Internet was explicitly excluded from the law's surveillance rules, with the understanding that the exclusion could be revisited. However, he claims that extending CALEA to the Internet of today is counter to the intention of Congress.

    In a notice posted to the FBI's CALEA Web site yesterday, the FCC promises to release another order that will address such issues as "compliance extensions and exemptions, cost recovery, identification of future services and entities subject to CALEA, and enforcement."
     
  2. geek1017

    geek1017 What's a Dremel?

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    sorry, I realize that it was recently found that the government had been taping phones illegally but still,
    If criminals use a phone and the FBI gets the court order or whatever that lets them tap it, I want the same mechanism in place for VoIP.
    Maybe I don't understand VoIP tech but the FBI can look at your email and such if they want to anyway. Packet sniffing and other "hacking" can be done to see exactly what you're doing with your computer if it is attached to the internet.
    In reallity, no legislation can either allow or prevent this.
     
  3. MonkeyTurnip

    MonkeyTurnip What's a Dremel?

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    IMO i know some one will say its voilating my civil libities etc

    but i say let them do it, if it makes this world a safe place and stops certiain thnigs happening toat can affect so many then all the best.

    i have nothnig to hide, IMO the only people who complain about this has something to hide

    as long as it doesnt affect me in any way IE cost me money etc i cant see anything wrong with it
     
  4. Malvolio

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    Umm, unfortunately, we are talking about the government here, not a sane, well managed organization.

    It WILL cost you money (taxes), it WILL be misused, and most of the people complaining about it don't have anything to hide.

    The authorities will eventually just get tired of going through the proper channels to track things down and just start randomly fishing for things illegally. The problem with this is, if they find ANY evidence, it is not usable in court, as it was gathered under illegal terms. This means: the "terrorists" go free.

    What I find funny though: there have been no more "terrorist" attacks recently than what we've had over the past 100-200 years. Yet all of a sudden it's some pandemic and everybody should be super-worried and willingly give up their rights just so that they can have their false sense of security back.



    If you think that giving the government even more power is a good thing, then I do believe you should move to a country like Iraq (before sadam was taken out of power), as the populace has very few rights, and the government treats them good, right? ;)
     

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