The annoying thing is those pretty fans will have to go, blue/white/black/silver only!! i just liked there chrome finnish! Why does no one reply?!
yes i was woundering weather you were going to get rid of those. i think more peeps will reply when u start gettin some of the build going. but for now your going to have to put up with me replyin
Damn!! LoL Cheers for the help dude, all i need now is money, im selling all my old mods atm, so i should be getting cash to start buying the parts. I have recieved the IDE and floppy cables now, one proper question tho. Has anyone tryed PSU braiding then placeing rubbr tubing over the top?? Any pics of it done, and tube sizes becasue im thinking of either blue, black, or silver braiding then placing clear tube over the top, hoping it will make it curve/lie and look better. Feedback Please... Andy.
Andy, Sorry to bust up your private thread! You mentioned 120mm fans that are quiet. Use Panasonic Panaflo models for the best here. The nice thing is that they are quiet, big, and move a LOT of air. They also handle voltage regulation really well so that if you wanted to put a baybus or other fan control in there (particularly if you're talking about evenually watercooling) and also are the most recommended fan to attach to w/c radiators. So, less you would have to upgrade later! Since you're building your own and talking about watercooling, I highly recommend you take a trip to our "Extreme Cooling" forum and poke around...you'd be surprised what this might mean for your case, and particularly for your PSUs at the bottom (unless you isolate them).
Not too sure what your last comments mean, im intending to use some sort of relay to close the switch on one PSU from the voltage (12v) supplyed from the other, cheers for the comments. Checking out the forums now.
Well, you will have to have a reservoir, radiator, and various amounts of plastic tubing filled with water in your case. If there's a leak, water will drip down first, meaning that it will probably short the power supplies. Accidents and leaks occasionally happen, so unless you wanted to put a shelf in your case above the PSUs to keep them safe from water, you would really be tempting the devil (so to speak). Also keep in mind that a radiator is fairly heavy, and a reservoir also is. The res is best (not necessary, but optimal) being suspended in the mid to upper case so it can feed down into the pump (allowing gravity to work some on the system). These will need to be supported by your frame along with all the drives! Great ideas, though...I started out with a rough design like this and eventually went with a 13x13 cube. You'll be able to see it in the project logs when I get my final parts in to finish the build. I hope to see yours there, too! I'll keep an eye on this and offer any ideas if I think of them to help prepare you for where you're taking this. Perhaps some will be of benefit if you haven't built a case or watercooled before, but I won't be offended if you don't use them.
hmm, possibly if i designed an bent acrylic shelf:: PSU ____________ | | | | | Pump | | | | | with the PSU's ontop and prehaps the pump, if i made it black/UV blue would complement the case and would also hide, to some extent, the ugly Eheim 1250 pump! Do you reckon that would work? it would also mean there is more space around the PSU's for cooling.
Not a bad idea, but keep in mind a fair amount of leaks come from a coupling failing just as much as a pump breaking. Certainly a wiser idea, though, than putting the pump over top of them! Maybe shield the PSUs entirely...how does this sound? (sorry for the ascii!) --------------------------------- | drive | | drive | | mobo drive | |R HDD | |A HDD | |D | | RES | | RES | | | | pump | |===================== | <- bent or slanted tray | PSU PSU | |=================== | <- flat tray |____________________________| <- Overflow area This way, in case of a leak, your PSUs would be covered from the top, and the water would just drip down to the overflow area. I mean, since you're building it yourself, you have the ability to build a top-notch setup for watercooling, and part of that is making sure leaks don't blow your whole computer up. Hope that helps! /* edit */ Just remembered it collapses all my spaces down to minimal, so imagine that the hdds and such are all on the *front* of the case, which has collapsed!
is an idea, i need to get ack on pro desktop i think, i reckon if i create all the components, eg PSU motherboard to there maximum sizes, put those in and have a look how i can put it all together on shelfes etc. Your starting to scare me dude! I thught water cooling was a good thing
Hahaha... relax, andy. Watercooling is a GREAT thing. But there's always that one dude with the horror story. I have never been that dude, and I try to make sure anyone who I can talk to beforehand never is either. It's always better safe than sorry! I figure it like this: normally, you have a case that was designed for stock air cooling, and you HAVE to cram all this extra crap in it to watercool, which can lead to some safety issues for your hardware. You, on the other hand, have started on the wonderful world of case BUILDING, meaning you can build it FOR watercooling. Why not have every protection you can put in there? I would design this case for the watercooling straight away. And since you're talking about PSUs in the bottom, a leak is a possibility (however slight), so it's best to protect against it, no? Chances are, nothing would happen. But if something did, you'd be saying "Oh, I need a new hose clamp" where most people would be saying "Oh, I need 2 new psus."
Im going to cry, the 600w chrome PSU have all been sold!! should have bid earlyer and payed later instead of weighting for the cash!! DAMN!! hopefully some more "water proof" designs laer tonight Andy.
is there a shop for the acrylic cubes people use to re-enforce the corners of ther acrylic cases? I know this seems a silly question, but it has to be asked!! cheers Andy.
yo, i see you got another regular poster now the cubes arent hard to construct, so if you cant find them you can make them. all you need to do is get a small pice of the metal of your choice, drill a hole in it and thread it for the size of your screws. then make a cube of acrylic, out of some XT rod, drilll a hole in it that is the same size as the metal and use the strongest glue you can get your hands on to glue the pice of metal into it.
Andy, Many places that sell acrylic online also sell cubes, rods, and various other extruded shapes. I don't have anybody that I know of over there, as I'm stateside, but they're out there!
I think it wil prolly be easyer to use some steel offcuts to make the "strong" bit and then cover in acrylic off cuts. Cheers.. Ordering the PSU's to night, all pretty and chrome
Will i get problems with air collections if i do:: #=spaces __________________________ |##############|#####| |##############|#####| |##############|#####| |######CPU######|#####| |######Block#####|#####| |##############|#####| |##############|--Res--| |##############|-------| |###############|####| |################|###| |################|#R#| |################|#A#| |#Pump###########|#D#| |################|###| ------------------------------ Thats mento be my case, with the CPU block lower than res, becasue isnt the res ment to be up high so air bubles ris and escape from the system.. Any ideas, i know this should prolly be in water cooling, but i like it here on the modding board!
If your worried about the air, you can either change your design or - set it all up with the res temperarly higher, run it for 24 hours (as you should do anyway for your leak test) in that time any air bubbles will have moved into the res. you are then free to move the res down into the desired position. -matt
Yep, what Mattt said. You can also run a tube up (connected via a T joint) to help bleed the system by putting it higher than the res. The air will collect at the top of that tube, which can then be drained off or left up there (it won't go back into the system). Then you don't even have to move your res if you don't want. Though since you have your PSUs at the bottom of the case, maybe you can mount your res to the top? It would look pretty sweet going where normally one would expect to see a PSU....
