Cooling Using a car intercooler?

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  1. Mongoose

    Mongoose What's a Dremel?

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    I've heard of people using the heater core radiator out of cars before, but my friend has an old 1991 Eagle Talon turbo and he removed the stock intercooler from it. He said I could pick it up from him really cheap. It is about 6" x 8" and about 3" thick. He said the inlet and outlets were 1.6" in diameter. I could mount 1/2" barbs in this and use on a 1/2" system. Any comments/suggestions would be welcome, thanks!
     
  2. 8-BALL

    8-BALL Theory would dictate.....

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    The only thing that comes to mind is that most intercoolers are aluminium, and, as such, you would need to take necessary precautions against galvanic corrosion if using copper blocks.

    Other than that, there is no reason why it SHOULDN'T work. Though, you should remember that intercoolers are designed for cooling air rather than water.

    8-ball
     
  3. TMM

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    that might be a new concept, air into case, through an intercooler and ducted to CPU fan!!
    :jawdrop: :naughty: :eyebrow:

    or maybe not becasue the air outside your case is not hotter than inside :|
     
  4. Mongoose

    Mongoose What's a Dremel?

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    Well you could always try to do what they do on the sport compacts, use nitrous oxide or CO2 to spray in front of the intercooler. Hehe that'd be wicked, NOS on a computer. I guess it would work, don't know about the humidity on the spray though, might have to run it outside the computer and use the spray to cool the intercooler and have intercooler keeping your internals cool. *shrugs* Never really thought about that before...

    : edit : Found a pic of one...
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  5. zip22

    zip22 What's a Dremel?

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    many many people use car heatercores on water cooling systems. if you ask on ocforums.com what the best choice for a watercooling system is, the answer is always a 1985 chevette heatercore. they are all copper and brass and can be had for very cheap. id say go for it with the heatercore

    edit: so wait, is a heatercore the same as an intercooler, or is an intercooler to cool down something else. i think im messed up, but go for it anyways :D
     
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  6. hypocrisy86

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    Hmm that is awesome... i'd like to try that someday!
     
  7. Mongoose

    Mongoose What's a Dremel?

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    An intercooler is to cool down a turbocharger but its the same basic concept as a radiator. I'll have to post a picture of mine later today.
     
  8. 8-BALL

    8-BALL Theory would dictate.....

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    Intercoolers are "similar" designs to heatercores, however, the internal dimensions are optimised for cooling air and not water.

    A large car radiator would give better performance size for size.

    8-ball
     
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    wouldn't this get pretty expensive?
     
  10. Mongoose

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    Very, yes. But you could pull some pretty good benchmark scores with it like that and then stop spraying and turn your speed back down.
     
  11. kryptkeeper

    kryptkeeper What's a Dremel?

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    Actually, many heatercores (not neccassarily a 1985 Chevette) can be used. The chevette is reallypopular because it fits really well inside a lot of computer caes. Depending on the case, another HC might actually be better...depending on the fit. I got a late-80's-early 90's S-10 heatercore that's very similar to a Chevette core except it's 1/4 thicker and about a 1/4 narrower) for $2.00 on Ebay after shipping the whole thing still only ran $7.00. It was oxidized fairly well (though internally it looked very good) Brass and copper just weren't shiny....and there was some gunk leftover from the hoses. A quick do-over with the Dremel and it looks like new. If you come across a HC, I wouldn't really worry about the year or model of a car it's "made" for, esp since many were interchangable. I'd look more at whether or not it'll fit comfortably inside your case.
     
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    kryptkeeper What's a Dremel?

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    Actually, many heatercores (not neccassarily a 1985 Chevette) can be used. The chevette is reallypopular because it fits really well inside a lot of computer caes. Depending on the case, another HC might actually be better...depending on the fit. I got a late-80's-early 90's S-10 heatercore that's very similar to a Chevette core except it's 1/4 thicker and about a 1/4 narrower) for $2.00 on Ebay after shipping the whole thing still only ran $7.00. It was oxidized fairly well (though internally it looked very good) Brass and copper just weren't shiny....and there was some gunk leftover from the hoses. A quick do-over with the Dremel and it looks like new. If you come across a HC, I wouldn't really worry about the year or model of a car it's "made" for, esp since many were interchangable. I'd look more at whether or not it'll fit comfortably inside your case.
     
  13. mclean007

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    Had never thought of this - what precautions can one take to avoid galvanic corrosion?
     
  14. 8-BALL

    8-BALL Theory would dictate.....

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    Most car performance coolant additives are corrosion inhibitors, due to the nature of the often mixed metals used in the cooling circuit of a modern car. (copper heatercore, alu/copper radiator, cast iron/alu engine block - not a good group of metals to mix on a cooling loop!)

    Water wetter and other similar additives, are used primariliy to prevent corrosion, rather than to enhance performance. The performance enhancing was just something else which could be engineered into the same product.

    As I understand it, the Swiftech HydrX additive is very good, offering some of the best protection from corrosion with mixed materials.

    However, avoiding mixing metals in the first place is the best form of prevention, as most corrosion inhibitors meerly slow the onset of corrosion, some better than others. The only way to GUARANTEE prevention from galvanic corrosion is to use only one metal for components in the loop, or metals with similar galvanic potentials.

    Copper and Aluminium is a very bad mix. Cast Iron is terrible.

    Stick to mixing copper and brass if you must mix metals at all, as they have very similar galvanic potentials.

    Hope this helps

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  15. |V| 4 L k i 3 R

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    I think you have a radiator and an intercooler mixed up. I have a talon, and the thing that is 6x8x3 is an aluminum Intercooler which is used pre-throttlebody to cool down the air before it is combusted. You would have SERIOUS pressure drop problems trying to run water through this.

    If you are talking the radiator, I think you will have the same problems with the size of it.

    Maybe look into getting an oil cooler radiator. Those are a lot smaller and thinner, more accustomed to a pc sized case.

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    LP_intheend_LP What's a Dremel?

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    Intercoolers cool air (air that left a turbocharger) before it enters the combustion chamber in order to prevent knocking. For those of you who don't know, thats when the fuel ignites too early (during compression instead of firing). Intercoolers DO NOT cool turbochargers. LOL :hehe:
     
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