News Valve: Left 4 Dead is not racist

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  1. Horizon

    Horizon Dremel Worthy

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    The guys a douchebag, he's looking for racism where it isn't present. There are more obvious issues to tackle in video games like negative sterotyping, e.g. how many black well-spoken intelligent black characters have you see in games? I can count them all on one hand. He says that it's immoral to play on the confederate side shooting union soldiers. How many World War II games are out there? He's vocal about it that he enjoys killing Nazi's, well the thing is Nazi's were German, and I'm pretty sure german appreciate game that glorify killing of their people, and world war II? nah that happen for purely entertainment reasons and it was only a little over 50yrs ago. So apparently it's wrong when he can't act out on his racism and instead of owning up he just hides and tries to play the black victim card. I'm also black living in America and can see what a piece of **** hypocrite that guy is.
     
  2. HourBeforeDawn

    HourBeforeDawn a.k.a KazeModz

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    is it me or the people that claim something is raciest tend to be the ones who are raciest themselves more so then others... obviously I will have to compare to african americans always bring up how their people were slaves its like really you were a slave? no oh okay your parents were slaves? no oh okay so your grand parents were slaves? no huh then shut the hell up and move on.... the people who complain about such things and claiming to be held back for whatever reason are the ones themselves holding themselves back because they cant let go of the pass and actually movie on. This whole race things is just so stupid there is no race, just humans living on the same planet... move on quit complaining and enjoy life. Oh and for the record I think in the first left 4 dead I killed more "white" zombies then black so should I go around claiming how raciest left 4 dead was for white people? lol its just stupid... okay end of rant lol Im done and moving on ^^
     
  3. thehippoz

    thehippoz What's a Dremel?

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    guys name is willie.. I can see that happening.. crazy, how do you go to sleep at night and wake up thinking- you know what! that left 4 dead is racist :D I got the scenario right here..

    willie.. also known as sizzling willie at certain bars- picks up a hot black guy- only to find out later it was a chick.. he roid rages and looses all sense and writes this garbage on his mac
     
  4. Horizon

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    Slavery isn't really racism. prejudice, discrimination, and hate are. Africans were made into slaves based on the simple fact that they were easier to pick out of a crowd than one that resembled the general population.
     
  5. tmakonde

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    First I was going to state, that whoever claim it were racist for their being black zombies in the next install of left for dead, are idiots.There be those claiming racism if no black zombies were included.So please!!Ok.

    Now I have to respond to these 'I don't know what i'm talking about'quotes.

    "Horizon
    Africans were made into slaves based on the simple fact that they were easier to pick out of a crowd than one that resembled the general population."

    WRONG!! Very simplistic assumption. Now you truly are talking out of your proverbial ass here. Africans were enslaved because of white christians justifing their actions through biblical texts. It enabled them to deride and negate black humanity to the form and viewpoint of 'cattle', socially, economically, theologocally, scientifically and by implimented laws,so they can do the horrendous things they have done for the pursuit of economic gain. Dehumanise someone and it negates any sympathy or conscience.Intially Native Americans where used first in this 'slave industry', followed by indentured Europeans. Both keeled over and couldn't handle the labour. Because of that Blacks were used.Read your history books.

    as for HourBeforeDawn

    'the people who complain about such things and claiming to be held back for whatever reason are the ones themselves holding themselves back because they cant let go of the pass and actually movie on'

    WRONG: I wish that was true but unfortunately you're not particularly clever.You live in a sheltered environ and act as if YOU can explain situations why blacks are in? How Blacks are as they are? Please. Blacks have more experience of whites than the other
    ay around. For one we are a minority group and surrounded by the majority, and thus have higher interaction with whites, which is better understanding of how you are than the other way around. With those in the majority, you don't have to associate, or if you do, it's on a smaller scale. In essence, lack of interaction equals 'you-don't-know-what-you're-talking-about-much', concerning the other.For many, I wouldn't be surprised if your black friends are far between or non existant.Let a black man explain. Cause you certainly don't get it. Ok. Why some blacks go on about enslavement is because the society we live in, STILL HOLD ON TO VIEWS AND INSTIGATE ACTIONS towards us. You don't see it cause you don't experience what is so easily dismissive by many. Those views stem from..slavery..right! And as for that holocaustic institution, we as blacks should never forget it. NO WAY you say? Paranoia?
    How a fellow white interacts with you is not at times from my own experience the same. How many times you get racist slurs at you? Or groups of weakass minded whites attack you? Or how behaviour changes when you enter a room. Followed and/or held up by cops-physically that is.Or attacks within a work environment. Does the average white man get this? This is not a now and again - one shot experience. These are experiences many times over? And how many of you could handle normal life plus these contradictions? Contradictions in the sense that I have white friends and yet i am attacked by ones who happen to look like my friends? You don't get it cause YOU DON'T-GET-IT. He who knows it feels it. Our reality is NOT THE SAME AS YOURS. The two i've quoted from, 'try' to place themselvers in shoes that don't fit, and assume what they say is legit? It's like me saying about how to fly a plane but never experiencing it.Seeing the cockpit from a distance is not the same as being in one,flying the plane and seeing the view from that point. I'm not here to rant but to give a little 'correction' of an highly complex issue to those who don't know what they're talking about. It never ceases to amaze me how lack of knowledge that some replies emanate from a suposedly higher than average intelligent group.
     
  6. [USRF]Obiwan

    [USRF]Obiwan What's a Dremel?

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    There are no naked zombie chicks running around in the game. Now that is what I call racism!
     
  7. thehippoz

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    hey tma.. welcome to the forum- you may be the only black person here besides nexxo :D

    I know a little about african history.. not much really- but christian missionaries did try to convert african villagers, problem was they died trying.. they settled right off the the rivers like they normally do. the natives knew better and lived inland away from the mosquitoes- all the attempts ended with malaria and death

    you have to be pretty bad ass to live out there.. the slave traders weren't missionaries- hate to lump them in with that group who actually gave their lives.. think it was the dutch who were one of the worst in the slave trade, correct me if I'm wrong and your not dutch!

    think the civil war shows how divided americans were on the slave issue.. but I do understand it's almost comical when a white person makes remarks about pick yourself up.. happy to see there is a divide though between the younger generation and the generation who marched with mlk- I like what I see as far as mixed relationships here in the states (outside of georgia of course- man when lived there all heard was n word this and that, I actually lived about 2 doors down from a guy in the kkk.. he had a little black doll in his window sill wearing a white pointy sash and grew his own weed, so yeah there's backwards people everywhere.. can't really blame him though, he was raised like that doesn't know any different)

    far as this article.. think we can all agree, the guys a crackhead :clap:
     
  8. Ape

    Ape Suck my barrel

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    If L4D was to truly represent my experience of the majority of blacks in the UK - then rather than using English he would be talking in '50 cent'glish.
     
  9. Horizon

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    Oversimplified yes, but I'm going to have to disagree, I won't believe for one second that Africans made into slaves because they were built tougher than the other 'alternatives' other than the fact they were easily exploited. Also in your second sentence 'justify', justification and reason are two different things. You only state as to why slavery became an acceptable form of cheap labor. I doubt a slave dying regardless of race was an issue, they simply got replaced. In then many textbooks I've read, the main reasons why indentured servants were unsuitable for cheap labor was due to the fact that they almost always ran away, and there was little or no chance of recovery. Native Americans, don't remember anything explicit about them regarding the issue but I pretty sure the issue is the same that they would escape, and their tribes were able to fight back. Now an African on the other hand they're in a foreign land, can't get too far, easily identifiable because they'd stick out like a sore thumb and have the little issue called the Atlantic Ocean between them and home.

    that's all the time at the moment, don't have time proofread sry. about any grammatical errors, and half finished thoughts.
     
  10. Elton

    Elton Officially a Whisky Nerd

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    I don't know about this but why is tmakonde even arguing? I mean it's been settled, L4D isn't racist, and if it was, it would be VERY apparent if not foolish.
     
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