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News Valve to drop Steam support for Ubuntu Linux

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  1. bit-tech

    bit-tech Supreme Overlord Staff Administrator

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  2. lacuna

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    Canonical, rather than Valve here presumably
     
  3. Gareth Halfacree

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    Yarp - it's been an early start and a long morning 'ere. I'll go fix, ta!
     
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    At the moment, Ubuntu is still supported; if Canonical carries through its plan to ditch 32-bit library development in October, A. N. Other Distro will become the official not-SteamOS-operating-system of Steam for Linux. Valve hasn't decided which, yet, but I guarantee it'll be Debian-based (maybe even Ubuntu-based, from the first spin to say "we'll take over i386 development").
     
  6. Jeff Hine

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    If a recent LTT video is anything to go by, anything 'now' will be OK for as long as support is required... going forward, it'll be "64-bit of GTFO."
     
  7. Dr. Coin

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    I find myself siding with Canonical on this one. If not forced to, software & hardware developers tend to keep patching the same old software/drivers to work with the new environment. I see this is similar to what Microsoft did with Vista and Apple has done a couple of times with both hardware and software. Sure it caused some initial pain and suffering, and some people (myself included) lost support for some precious this or that, but it paved the way for a much product down the road.

    I suspect that there will be ways around the the lost of 32-bit support on Ubuntu for those who really need it.
     
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    Fun fact: every single piece of Windows software you've ever installed (from Windows 95/NT upwards, I hasten to add, I'm not talking WFWG here) used a 32-bit installation program. All of 'em.

    Canonical's actually semi-backed-down on the plan - presumably 'cos losing Steam would be a big blow. I'll do an update in the morning.
     
  9. Dr. Coin

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    My comment wasn't meant to be specific to 32-bit support, but more general support of the decision to remove legacy support (after an appropriate transition period).
     
  10. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    Didn't Vista ditch 16-bit support, or was that 2k/xp....
     
  11. Yaka

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    why dont valve just do it for rasbian os,
     
  12. Dr. Coin

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    I am not 100% sure what all they did but as I understood it the major change was to ditched a bunch of legacy DLLs that were essentially DOS drivers with a wrapper to make it work with Win 3 with a wrapper to support Win98, etc.
     
  13. Paradigm Shifter

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    64-bit Windows "broke" 16-bit support. So that includes Windows XP x64, which to be fair was poorly supported anyway (tin foil hats on for possible reasons...) but it was Vista x64 that saw the beginning of the end of 16-bit code for Windows.

    And have almost every game on Steam that does work on Linux... not work any more? ARM is not x86; worse, ARMv6, v7 and v8 all have different quirks.

    But Valve supporting Debian (which is what Raspbian in based on) is a good idea, since Debian tends to support architectures until they're so old they probably have a place in the fossil record.
     
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    New update from Ubuntu

    https://ubuntu.com/blog/statement-on-32-bit-i386-packages-for-ubuntu-19-10-and-20-04-lts
     
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