Veterans' March on Wall Street: 11/2/11

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  1. Prestidigitweeze

    Prestidigitweeze "Oblivion ha-ha" to you, too.

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  2. mvagusta

    mvagusta Did a skid that went for two weeks.

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    Wake up.

    These photos are proof that protesters can actually behave themselves, unlike earlier OWS protesters... are you seriously not able to notice a difference :confused:
     
  3. supermonkey

    supermonkey Deal with it

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    In what way did earlier protesters not behave themselves? I thought we had fairly well established in the previous thread that the people who were being hit with pepper spray hadn't actually done anything wrong.
     
  4. mvagusta

    mvagusta Did a skid that went for two weeks.

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    Captain Obvious reporting for duty :thumb:

    In the other thread, it was very thoroughly established, both through video evidence and explanations, that the earlier ows protests were rude, wild mobs, complete with screaming insults and provocative comments - it is extremely unfair to suggest that the people hit with pepper spray were behaving themselves before they were sprayed, when they were screaming insults and provocative comments at the police officers.

    Anyone suggesting that the very calm, civilized, peaceful veteran protesters, remotely compare to earlier ows protesters, is greatly insulting the veterans.
     
  5. Prestidigitweeze

    Prestidigitweeze "Oblivion ha-ha" to you, too.

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    The only thing Mr. Agusta established in the previous thread is that he's an intellectual zygote who's so terrified of Occupy Wall Street that he'll do anything to disrupt a constructive conversation about it. He is dedicated to promoting irrational stereotypes of people he's never met at events he's never witnessed. He is so stupefyingly dim that he has continually interpreted politeness as a form of weakness except when accusing taciturn protesters of being uncivil to the police who happen to be pepper-spraying them. You're better off ignoring him, since nothing he has said has been remotely insightful or interesting.

    The reason I'm engaging in this sort of brisk character assassination is because that's precisely what Agusta's been doing to protesters at Zucotti Park, some of whom happen to be my friends and are so far removed from his bigoted assertions that he might as well be calling Lillian Gish's corpse a callgirl.

    While we're on the subject of cops and brutality, here's a news item about a retired Philly police chief who was so shocked and disgusted by the behavior of his fellow officers that he joined OWS specifically to tell them so:

    Retired police chief arrested in full uniform at Occupy Wall Street demo after branding fellow officers 'obnoxious, arrogant and ignorant'
     
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  6. Sloth

    Sloth #yolo #swag

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    A little bit off topic and more or less just thinking out loud: whenever veterans get involved in a cause there seems to be a mentality that all veterans are somehow the same, and that if "the veterans" support it surely all past and present service members are in agreement. They're people who support OWS, who then also happen to be veterans.
     
  7. stonedsurd

    stonedsurd Is a cackling Yuletide Belgian

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    Excellent post, but I just went into paroxysms of deranged laughter when I read this. :thumb:
    Yes.

    However, in America, where not supporting troops/veterans is akin to high treason (I'm still not sure why), having these gents take part in OWS means Fox News will have a harder time calling all OWS protesters nutbags and communist scum. If it was two or ten, I think the Fox News chaps could have gotten away with it but not anymore, with so many men and women in uniform involved and very visible.
     
  8. DXR_13KE

    DXR_13KE BananaModder

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    It is strange when this is considered bad and the revolutions in the middle east are good...
     
  9. stonedsurd

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    Strange, but not unexpected. This is how we've functioned for at least the last 70 years, if not longer.
     
  10. brave758

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    Navy boy had plugs..... He aint serving... Least not in the army i served in....
     
  11. mvagusta

    mvagusta Did a skid that went for two weeks.

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    Good for you, enjoy making more personal attacks towards me, feel free to mock my username, and make as many wild accusations about me as you like.

    Oh yes, it was quite a post, wasn't it?

    And how hilarious was it ?!?!
     
  12. supermonkey

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    I think the idea is similar to Nexxo's and Dwarfer's most recent exchange in the 'Muslims against Crusades' thread. Our media portray Muslims as fundamentalist nutters out to get us. Likewise, in our media, veterans are given a place of honor - they are the noble guard who stand for truth, justice, and the American way. Making a point about veterans joining the OWS movement is part of the story. They are the new characters introduced to move the plot along.
     
  13. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    Weren't you referring to Supermonkey as "captain obvious"? If you dish it out, be prepared to receive it with equal grace.
     
  14. LeMaltor

    LeMaltor >^_^

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    ow no not naming calling :lol:
     
  15. mvagusta

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    Not at all! I meant I'll take the duty of captain obvious, and point out a few things.
    Even if I had referred to supermonkey as Captain obvious, I don't think that compares to insults such as "intellectual zygote", or "stupefyingly dim"

    Yes, oh yes, there was indeed name calling!
    And yes, they were the sort of insults that people don't always get away with irl.
     
  16. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    OK, my bad.

    @ Prestidigitweeze: name calling does nothing to reinforce your argument. Flaming is bad, mmmmokay?
     
  17. supermonkey

    supermonkey Deal with it

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    In regards to the Occupy Wall Street protest, and the media coverage is garners, I wonder if the whole debate about who comprises the protestors was fabricated to take attention away from why the people are protesting.

    It's one of the reasons I dislike a lot of the left's media coverage of the Tea Party protests. Rather than discuss the issues that were raised during the height of the Tea Part movement, and point out why so many of the opinion expressed were misguided, it was often easier to mock the protestors themselves.
     

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