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Vinyl Buyers: Suggestions Please

Discussion in 'General' started by mookboy, 28 Mar 2005.

  1. mookboy

    mookboy BRAAAAAAP

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    Yo.

    Basically I just invested in a new hi-fi with the express purpose of listening to vinyl. Only snag is, there's a whole heap of stuff I want on vinyl that my (admittedly excellent) local music stores don't stock. Specifically 160g reissues of classic albums (I've picked up Led Zep's 'Physical Graffiti' and Pink Floyds 30th Anniversary edition of 'Dark Side Of The Moon' already plus a bunch of standard releases).

    After much google' ing, I am unable to find a decent UK based online store that might be able to specialise in such records and so I was hoping that there might be someone on these forums that knows of a good source for quality vinyl online. Please don't say eBay.

    Any other vinyl related links will do me fine aswell.
     
  2. DeathAwaitsU

    DeathAwaitsU I'm Back :D

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  3. Icecoldbagey

    Icecoldbagey Mountain Dew!!!

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    HMV usually have a good stock where i live and decks to use :thumb: , Ice
     
  4. mookboy

    mookboy BRAAAAAAP

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    Nah I'm not looking for DJ stuff or dance stuff. More a general range of music and releases, plus stuff on quality vinyl.
     
  5. felix the cat

    felix the cat Spaceman Spiff

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    i dont know where you live, but in bristol they tend to have a vinyl show every 8months or so (dont quote me on that though) and its basically a hall filled with people selling vinyl. its right next to the station which can be handy for people coming from elsewhere, but last time i went there was aparently about 40 000ish pieces of vinyl available...apart from that i would have said you would need to find a huge music store that still has lots of vinyl left over and still for sale...i cant say i have seen many in the past few years, but 3 years ago there was still one in canberra (oz) that i used to go to on a weekly basis, which stocked most things on vinyl...all in all its getting much harder to get hold of vinyl unless its of the dancedj type...
     
  6. StoneDwarf

    StoneDwarf What's a Dremel?

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    http://www.beanos.co.uk/

    Based in Croydon..not online sales but you can search stock and get lists etc.

    One of the most knowledgeable and helpful vinyl shops in the UK. :)
     
  7. dom_

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    beanos is stupidly over priced. its crazy. i no longer go there because i can get albums for 50% less elsewhere especially ones they consider to be collectable.

    i would go to www.vivante.co.uk if you want re-issues, 97% of there stuff is new they say when its second hand and the condition. Other bonus is you can search by vinyl weight. If you can visit them (they are in reigate) i would. They have a HUGEEE selection. They also package better than any others.

    When buying second hand be very carefull. Check for scrathces obviously. Dust dont worry about as it can be washed/brushed away. Also hold them to the light to see all maks. Check also is the record is warped as this changes the sound. Also if you really want to collect huge amounts buy a few collectors books (as they vary in opinion) so you can see how much you should pay.
    If your interested i can tell you of a good shop in caterham and two good ones in tumbridge wells. but im not sure of your location
     
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  8. dharma punk

    dharma punk What's a Dremel?

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    Gemm has been extremely reliable for me. I've found quite a few original pressings at reasonable prices. I'm not sure how much trouble it would be for someone across ther pond though.
     
  9. mookboy

    mookboy BRAAAAAAP

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    Nice site. Seems that Led Zep reissue I have is actually 200g... they're offering it for £6 less than HMV too. LOL Still a lot of money though.

    Question. After spending a good hour or so calibrating the arm on the turntable to be set to the correct amount of downforce, if the vinyl is heavier and therefore slightly thicker for some of my albums, am I running the risk of damaging them with therefore slightly more downforce than would be applied to a thinner (i.e. cheaper) release? Or am I misunderstanding the physics at work on the device?
     
  10. dom_

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    no extra downforce, the only difference is the arm should be parrallel to the lp, so with thicker vinyl it will be ever soooooo slightly off, but only a tiny bit. Some people have 2/3 arms setup on a deck for this and different cartridges for diff types of music etc, but thats kinda ott.
    You wont notice a difference.

    Are you cleaning your vinyl? as you will prob notice a difference if you clean new vinyl as it removes the release agent (only liquid cleaning though, not brush only).

    Also, how did you set the downforce? as its kinda hard to set this up to the cartridge without a force gauge of some sort.
     
  11. felix the cat

    felix the cat Spaceman Spiff

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    what turntable/arm/cartridge if i may be so nosey?
     
  12. Lord_A

    Lord_A Boom baby!

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    hijack!

    /thread hijack...

    OMG :jawdrop: :eeek: I never thought I would read something like that coming from you dom_
    :p :p

    /thread hijack
     
  13. mookboy

    mookboy BRAAAAAAP

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    The turntable is nothing flashy, just a good entry level model that got allround good reviews:

    Pro-Ject Xpression
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    Carbon arm and a neato cartridge for the price. A ****ing bind to set up using the Czech instructions. Setting the downforce was a case of counterbalancing the arm with the counterweight, and then adjusting the weight to the relevant notch according to the weight of the cart. For a novice like me, getting to grips with this... and the instructions, was a long process. I was quite amused by the sight of me checking the thing was coolio with a spirit level and a lot of squinting.

    For the record, the sound quality is ace. Complimented that with:

    NAD C320BEE Amp [Silver finish]
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    NAD 521BEE CD Player [Silver finish]
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    and

    NAD PP2 Phono stage
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    Total cost? Lets just say it was the wrong side of £650. Looking to add a tuner this week (DAB & FM). New speakers (floorstanders) when I swap to a bigger bedroom sometime in the next month or so.
     
  14. dom_

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    lol i used to have that very arm. i have its daddy atm :D got a project classic.

    with the amount you have spent i would say buy a decca record brush for a quick brush each time you put them on the platter to play and a liquid brush cleaning system like the one from russandrews.com or any similar one as many people sell them re-badged.
    clean vinyl=win.

    also have you checked if the phono plugs are the correct way around? as pro-ject are well known for putting them the wrong way around. and having left and right the wrong way around kills the soundstage.
    to test this you can buy an lp called hifi-news test record. it also helps you set up the cartridge even more! if you thought that was possible.

    also have you done anything with the azimuth? this is very hard to get spot on but you should notice when it is perfect. Best way is to put the stylus on the lead in groove of an lp without it turning. Then get low and close to it and make sure the needle is at exactly 90degrees (using your eye) if not unsrew the little rod that the tracking force weight string is on, then lift the arm up to reveal a small screw. loosen it a little to adjust until its perfect (obviosly dont asjust it while its on the record).

    edit:
    little thing.. if you can return the NAD phono stage and get the project one. it is supposed to be much better and they cost pretty much the same. but i havnt heard either this is just going off magazines, so dont hold me to it :p
     
  15. mookboy

    mookboy BRAAAAAAP

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    Yeah I bought a vinyl cleaning kit, smelly spray thing and a funny cloth. Made a massive difference to some of the second hand stuff I bought. When my arm hairs are sticking to the record from the static it's straight out!

    *gulp*
     
  16. felix the cat

    felix the cat Spaceman Spiff

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    nice setup...i used to play around with project turntables at work, and their pretty damn good for what you get...once you get the one where you have different motors for different lp speeds you know youve gone a touch ott... :sigh:
     
  17. dom_

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    "also have you set the azimuth and checked if left and right are correct? as pro-ject are well known for putting them the wrong way around."

    you qouted my mistake :D

    correct now in the original post so as not to confuse you.
     

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