Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Sifter3000, 4 Aug 2009.
Probably a case of shite timing.
Or a case of over confidence so they could brag after the convention that so many so-called "security experts" got hoodwinked into using a tampered with ATM.
I suspect the former, no one would be stupid enough to try the latter unless they were insanely good.
I think it was just bad timing. Rather than remove it they should have just cut power to it and kept an eye on the machine then when the *******s tried to fix it catch them and jail them.
It might not have been in view of a camera once installed, but surely at least one camer would have filmed it being brought into the building.
Awesome! Think about the balls needed to bring that thing in, place i it in front of the security office and then wait.
Kudos to whomever did that!
Yours in Romulan Pin Plasma,
They probably set it up so they never had to return to it
lol, this is an awesome story.
Maybe the guy had it placed there so he could then 'discover' it and get the kudos from all at the convention for being so awesome?
Hope the security staff are embarassed...
With these fake machines, do they actually give out any money? I always make sure that someone has got cash out of an ATM before I use it, along with the usual checks for dodgyness.
they almost got away with it
haha it was probably a worthless machine too, setup to scan then wirelessly transmit the card info over the net,
smart but i hope they get caught still, i hate credit card scammers
To my knowledge, (never been to defcon), but at defcon, if you leave it exposed, they will expose you. Bank accounts, ANYTHING, exposed, gets plastered to the wall for you to shame over.
I think this is one of the hackers having fun, or trying to prove point of security situational awareness.
Yip, you get your money, they get all the details needed to clone your card and your pin number! Checks for dodgyness are far more important than knowing someone else has also had their card details nicked!!
In Germany it's usually a card skimmer in front of the original slot and a small camera or "double" keyboard for the PIN attached to a normal, well functioning machine.
So seeing someone get cash before you do is no safety.
Haven't heard of complete false machines though...
oh no doubt, on the casino floor your on camera up to 1200 times, off the casino floor your on camera around 700 times, and walking down the strip your on camera at least 500 times (I use to work in Vegas) so ya they will certainly have something on camera and most casinos have griffin teams in place working with facial recognition software so it shouldnt take to long. Its always amusing to see someone try to rip off a casino, you would have better luck robbing a bank and getting away with it then ripping off a casino in Vegas lol
I'm pretty sure they'll have just brought in the hardware they need to hijack the machine and then use some kind of maintenance or repairs excuse to go about modding the already-installed ATM.
This is one of the reasons I do not have an ATM / Debit card. If I need actual cash, I go to the bank once every few months and get out some cash. 99% of the time I used a credit card for all purchases. If there is a transaction that I need to dispute on the credit card, at least the cash did not come straight out of my bank account like it would have with an ATM / Debit card.
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