Other Vuvuzela free footy

It's not a tradition. It's a fad introduced only ten years ago by some US guy in S-A. It's also very disrupting on the gameplay as players have difficulty communicating with the constant drone of these devices. You may also have noticed that there's almost no difference in the volume of the vuvuzelas during the game, which means that its noise has absolutely no bearing on what is happening.

Worse, sitting next to someone blowing on one of these things will lead to permanent hearing damage as one vuvuzela can produce over 130 dBA. Hearing damage (permanent) starts at 85 dBA. Even if it was a tradition I would strangle anyone within reach trying to use one of these things and claim self-defense.

 

with the length of those things the person behind you blowing it in your ear is about 3 rows back so you cant even tell them to shut up, even if they could hear you

 

I think that's what projectiles and projectile weapons are for

 

It is a tradition, it might be a fairly new one but it is still a tradition.

 

I dont understand why they havent just filtered the vuvuzelas anyway, it really wouldnt be that hard, run the audio signal from however many mics/cameras through a notch filter, isolate the vuvuzela, invert this signal, sum this with the original signal and voila - can still just add a commentator over the top and big win. I did this myself at home to proove a point to my mates, but as i dont have the commentators next to me able to provide more audio over the top, clarity was lost from what they were saying!

signal + inverted signal = nothing, is basically how noise cancelling headphones work, they have a mic that realtime inverts the audio it picks up outside the headphones, and plays it back to you with the music, therefore cancelling the outside noise - in laymens terms.

 

they can do it easily enough they just havent figured out yet if they want to.

the BBC was thinking of offering a vuvufree option if you clicked the red button but havent done it yet

 

If so, is a tradition always a good thing? Should one respect a tradition regardless of its content?

 

Of course. Although what content are you speaking of? Are you going off topic?

 

i dont respect religion, and i find that even less irritating than the vuvuzelas.

 

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Smack the end of that vuvu real hard and you can be sure this guy won't blow the vuvu for a while.

 

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edit: yes, they give you the option to filter the vuvuzelas.

 

I'm talking about traditions in general and vuvuzelas in specific. I'm against any tradition which is harmful to individuals and/or groups of people in a physical or emotional sense. I'm also against traditions which work disrupting. Vuvuzelas fall under the first and last point as they cause hearing damage to the person using them and those within a few meters distance, and make it hard for the soccer players to communicate, especially across longer distances, thus disrupting the game.

Vuvuzelas suck, whether they're a tradition or not.

 

That's your opinion. Of course you will now post the facts that back up your claim?

 

having 120db next to your ear must be ok, thats why:

the recommended safe exposure for a vuvuzela is about a minute and a half. imagine what it will be like for the full 2 hours you are in the stadium.

 

i heard the vuvuzelas were 144db somewhere. probably not one on its own but the cumulative

edit: the only source for 144db seems to be thesun so that cant be true lol

 

Vuvuzelas are about 127db - peak. if you consider a lawnmower is about 90db and a chainsaw about 100db - this is pretty loud! At this level you only need about 5 minutes a day exposure to course permanent hearing damage. Anything above about 90db can damage your hearing permanently if you are exposed to it daily. You dont reach a threshold of pain though until about 140db, where any exposure will both hurt and can perminantly damage your hearing.

The thing about hearing, and your ear, is once its damaged, its damaged. Your ear canal is a gentle meandering tapering cone, and along the sufface are tiny hairs, each part of the canal picks up different frequencies. When you seriously damage your hearing you kill these hairs, which ultimately means you loose that frequency from out of your hearing spectrum.

 

Here are some fun sound level comparisons: http://www.hardocp.com/image.html?image=MTI2MjI3Nzc2NWpDWkdGMVFKdG5fNF80X2wuZ2lm

 

Anybody have any figures of sound levels of a stadium full of singing fans?

 

thats different.

not only do you have frequency changes (as opposed to a constant B flat), but you get lulls and peaks - you wont get a whole stadium singing for 90 minutes straight.