Modding Watercooling Fluid Shootout

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Tim S, 16 Feb 2008.

  1. E.E.L. Ambiense

    E.E.L. Ambiense Acrylic Heretic

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    Having used both in builds, Feser is hands-down the best of the two by far. It doesn't leave what could be described as a sticky 'film' on your hands and other surfaces if you spill any, unlike PC-Ice. It actually feels kind of like water. PC-Ice feels like a gross fluid. Go for the Feser, man.
     
  2. Project_Nightmare

    Project_Nightmare What's a Dremel?

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    Finally, a post online that shows me which path to take!
    This might be a stupid question since I already can predict the answer, but does Feser One cause any problems with acrylic and the adhesive in the reservoir?
     
  3. [WP@]WOLVERINE

    [WP@]WOLVERINE What's a Dremel?

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    I just wanted to say that ive been using feser for a long time to and TBH theres nothing better. I know the owner personally and i know how much know how and actual sience thats behind the coolant. Its not just pouring chemicals together and making it look cool but it actually takes alot of work to make something ike this. Great stuff at a great price!!
     
  4. fluidmiester

    fluidmiester What's a Dremel?

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    Hmmm, I find it interesting that Fluid XP+ is such a bad company by what I am reading in these posts that they are even still in business. I mean after all their products have been around since 2003.

    I wonder what the testing would have concluded if maybe the tester diluted it down to his specific need, as that is what it was developed for, customization. According to the fluidxp.com website, Ultra was intended for the experienced water coolers that wanted to get the extra little bit of thermal conductivity so it allows them to add water, which by the way, both feser and pc ice are loaded with.

    I also did not see any testing done according to the American Standard Testing Measurement procedures for non-conductivity. If you take the fact of Ultra being a product that can be diluted down to 30% of distilled or deionized water and still do all the things it does, it makes it a very good value. I am sure that all of you in this forum are very intelligent when it comes to water cooling and don't just base your belief on a label.

    That is good, researching a product before you put it into that costly rig is very good. Hopefully, most of you understand about true ph and specific densities and all that techno stuff. Like why would you use a coolant versus say Ultra Pure Water that has a ph rated 2 to 3 which is on the acidic side, hmmm, could it be that according to a water specialist that Ultra Pure water will remove the calcium from your teeth, now I wonder what that would do to say a nice new metal radiator and block.

    Anyone out there know what Ultra Pure water might do to metal? Thanks for the info
     
  5. fluidmiester

    fluidmiester What's a Dremel?

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    Oh, I just noticed that Wolverine knows the owner at feser. That is good, I work for Integrity PC. Chow.
     
  6. aurora

    aurora JAVA GURU !!!

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    So basically there is no non conductive fluid?
     
  7. agentx250

    agentx250 What's a Dremel?

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    i use fluid xp and i love the stuff i have a Q6600 and a oc'ed 8800gts 320 and it keeps it so cool and its in the same loop i wudnt use anything else
     
  8. ParaHelix.org

    ParaHelix.org What's a Dremel?

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    I have always used Feser One, always worked like a charm, never let me down.
     
  9. ParaHelix.org

    ParaHelix.org What's a Dremel?

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    Well I admit that it ain't the best site ever but it just doesn't matter because you are expected to buy from an external retailer such as "TheCoolingShop" because it isn't a "Direct Outlet" to public consumers. :rock:
     
  10. ITGUY

    ITGUY What's a Dremel?

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    Sorry gang, I can't agree with any of these comments. I just lost a 200 dollar 9800 GTX+ because this crap leaked on it. If you want to believe the companies' claims, go ahead, I did too. Not anymore. My rig is smoked thanks to this obviously misleadingly labled product. DO NOT BUY THIS STUFF IF YOU VALUE YOUR SYSTEM LIKE I DO. I work way to hard to pay way to much for my rig to have this product SMOKE it. Check out this link..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOWLv2YHE_c and no, I'm not in it. I don't even know these folks. BUT, the experiment the perform SHOWS the destructive power of this product. IT's JUNK, STAY AWAY FROM IT AT ALL COSTS!!!!!!!
     
  11. HourBeforeDawn

    HourBeforeDawn a.k.a KazeModz

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    LOL hmm lets see, how about we pour "at best room temp" fluid on to something that is very very hot and have it rapidly change in temperature ya I dont think nothing will happen oh like the oil filled capacitors bursting ~_~

    Seriously and if you sprung a leak well thats your bad as you obviously didnt assemble your water cooling system properly.

    Oh and I have done a similar test of course not on a PSU as thats just plain dumb but on an old graphics card and motherboard and nothing happened but to be fair it was with Feser F1 coolant but my friends have had minor leaks during inital installation of a water cooling system do to a faulty barb on the radiator and well nothing happened either and they were using Fluid XP.

    LOL those guys are such idiots...

    Listen here is a video that Petras Tech Shop did and this is how you conduct these types of test, in this they are proving that distilled water is as good as non-conductive fluids because even non conductive fluid is made from distilled water...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-yT7cvfo3o
     
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  12. r4tch3t

    r4tch3t hmmmm....

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    Also you might want to remember that this product is designed to be non conductive for computers which only operate at 12V, in that PSU there was 110-240 Volts going through it, Plus the fact that it is AC makes it much more likely to cause damage. Even a non conductive fluid (like water) can become conductive when contaminants are in it. That's right, water is non conductive, it is the impurities that make it conductive. Pure water does not have enough ions to transfer charge. But then if the voltage is high enough anything will conduct electricity, thinks about lightning, is air a conductor?
     
  13. Zehnsucht

    Zehnsucht What's a Dremel?

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    Wow you guys...

    Seriously?
    Alex is the man:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-yT7cvfo3o&feature=channel
     
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  14. r4tch3t

    r4tch3t hmmmm....

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    Quite an interesting vid there, cheers.
     
  15. kinghong1970

    kinghong1970 Just a Clumsy Ape

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    Wait, So Feser puts Less Stuff and charges same exorbitant amount of money?

    can we see test of Feser One versus Pure Distilled Water with Silver Kill Coil?
    i just can't see why the tester HAD to mix Distilled with 5% Water Wetter...
     
  16. GravitySmacked

    GravitySmacked Mostly Harmless

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    Ah good gives me some substantiated reassurance to the fact I've been using Feser for the past 2 years.
     
  17. VeNoN'-'

    VeNoN'-' What's a Dremel?

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    The residue left Feser is deposited in the radiators and in all of the blocks and the circuit, the best is the distilled water to have the watercooling like the first day and for have a good temperature take a good material, blocks, etc...
     
  18. Angel OD

    Angel OD Pump Killer

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    Well... I'm using Fezer, and I thank my lord that I do.
    I was emptying my loop a couple of months ago, and for those of you who havn't seen my rig, I can reveal that it is a PAIN to drain! Took it all apart, and put it back together later on.
    What I hadn't seen, was that it had leaked quite an amount: 0,5 dl I would guess, straight into the mobo on the cpu and it's surroundings.
    I fired it up, and there was no problem. I had to check a couple of things with the psu, and that's when I noticed. I took it apart again, let it dry, and put it back together. No problems what so ever.
    It had run 3-4 hours while cpu was soaked in this fluid!!!

    It may be freak luck, I dunno. But I'm glad, that's for sure!
     
  19. nich666

    nich666 What's a Dremel?

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    Phew, what a lot of hot air... I am new here and although this was quite a time ago has anyone tried actually using car antifreeze neat or diluted? I may have missed the comment, and/or test, but as the test shows, ['MCT5 and MCT40. Both products come in a motor oil-esque packaging. The resemblance shouldn't be too surprising because Midwest Cooling Technologies also has its hand in automotive and industrial cooling applications. No wonder the stuff smells like antifreeze'], are they just bottling car antifreeze, (even more diluted maybe), and selling it to as gullible worry freaks???
     
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