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Hardware Western Digital VelociRaptor 300GB

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Tim S, 6 Mar 2009.

  1. Tim S

    Tim S OG

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  2. SiG

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    "Clever girl..."
    - Robert Muldoon.​

    Perhaps all that Western Digital need do is release a special edition and enjoy the increased sales by Jurassic Park geeks worldwide.
    Of course, that would mean that we would end up seeing 2 more versions with everyone attempting to forget about the last... :hehe:
     
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    Omnituens New Member

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    "SHOOT HER!"

    - Robert Muldoon​

    Wondered when you were going to get round to this awesome drive, been using one for some time now, almost since release. It's essentially my Steam directory ¬_¬
     
  4. Baz

    Baz I work for Corsair

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    I feel I let myself down here - this review needed more JP quotes

    I was musing about something to do with Unix systems.
     
  5. Jamie

    Jamie ex-Bit-Tech code junkie

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    JP \o/

    [​IMG]
     
  6. Nictron

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    I have 2 of these and they are awesome.
     
  7. [PUNK] crompers

    [PUNK] crompers Dremedial

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    damn i want an ssd, i keep telling myself to wait a year or two but i want everything i want
     
  8. Cupboard

    Cupboard I'm not a modder.

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    On the first page you say that the 334GB platters of the 1TB drives have a much higher platter density, but I beg to differ. Assuming that the platters are 3.5" and 2.5"* respectively with a 1" hole in the middle - though I realise it is a bit smaller for 2.5" drives - we have the area of the 3.5" drive is 11.25Pi sq inches and the area of the 2.5" drive is 5.25Pi sq inches.

    This gives a density of 29GB/Pi GB/sq inch for the 2.5" drive and 30GB/Pi GB/sq inch for the 3.5 inch disk. This is a very small difference, especially when you consider that the spindle hole in the middle is smaller on the 2.5" disk, which will probably mean the platter densities are the same, if not slightly higher on the smaller disk.

    Another issue is the 16Mb of cache the VelociRaptor has. Well great, my two-and-a-half year old drives have 16MB caches. The 1TB drives often have 32MB caches.



    *if I have used the feet shortcut instead of inches, I apologise

    edit: it has been pointed out that the smaller spindle on the 2.5" drive will actually reduce data density :blush:
     
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  9. Baz

    Baz I work for Corsair

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    Excellent point, well made.

    By our own calculations, the theoretical data density (considering a 1" motor on both drives) is, as you say, remarkably similar - 36.381 GB/Sq Inch for the Raptor vs 37.9 GB/Sq inch. However, Western Digital don't directly publish the figure on data density, so we'll have to go on these numbers. However - the Raptor probably doesn't use the more efficient perpendicular recording method that's allowed larger capacity drives to keep up performance wise, which is likley why the performance wasn't that far ahead of the competition even despite the 10,000RPM jump in drive speed.
     
  10. mikeuk2004

    mikeuk2004 What you Looking at Fool!

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    You seem so impressed with the speed of these SATA drives which would seem that there isnt anything else faster.

    Why do you not review SCSI drives? I mean SCSI has been around for years and years and have been so much faster thatn IDE, SATA, SSD and still are.

    So when will you do SAS drive test and compare all?
     
  11. impar

    impar Well-Known Member

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    Greetings!

    I have one of these, the 150GB little brother, it is great and I am glad to have purchased when it came out. I use it for OS and applications.
    That said, I think I wouldnt buy one today, there are some decent SSDs out now with an acceptable price.
     
  12. Meanmotion

    Meanmotion bleh Moderator

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    One thing to note about the VelociRaptor is it's markedly quieter than previous raptors and indeed most desktop hard drives.

    As for comparisons to SCSI drives. It's quite simple. They're damned expensive and a pig to setup. Just not a viable option for most consumers. Especially as just one drive gives enough capacity for your main system. SCSI only makes sense if you want speed and high capacities.

    One final point. Seemingly like many things, these drives have actually gone up in price recently. These were £180 on the day of launch and dropped to £150 soon after and now they're £200+. Dunno quite what to make of that fact but there it is.
     
  13. djDEATH

    djDEATH Habari gani?

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    "At £200 for a 300GB drive (£1.50/GB)"

    umm thats not quite correct, its 1.5GB/£
     
  14. Nicb

    Nicb Let's discuss among ourselves

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    I think that would be great too. But most people don't even know what SCSI drives are thou.
    It's sad...... :sigh:
     
  15. Baz

    Baz I work for Corsair

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    Fixed

    Sorry guys - no plans to test SCSI drives in the future - they're pretty much exclusive to the enterprise environment and even then they're not too widely used. We like to cover some niche hardware, but in this case we're not sure there's much point.
     
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    The cost of SAS drives would be horrible considering nearly all if not all mainstream motherboards don't have SAS connectors on them so you would have to buy a decent SAS card which could cost you between $80 USD up to over $1000 USD depending on how may drives you want to connect to it and the different RAID options you want. Not to mention even price of the drives... $180 USD for 147GB drive and up to $340 USD for a 300GB drive.

    So, even if you wanted something to just compete with a single raptor it would cost you around $430 USD PLUS TAX! Not to mention you would need to buy the SAS cables for them but that's chump change.

    Oh, one other thing SAS drive are loud as hell. They make 80mm Delta case fan sound quiet.
     
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    Good points Cupboard but:

    You were mostly correct in your argument til here, if the spindle hole (or motor) was smaller on the 2.5" disk, that would increase the area of the actual platter, therefore decreasing density. So the reality would be the 2.5" drive would not compare as well density wise if you took into account the smaller motor.
     
  19. Mister_Tad

    Mister_Tad Will work for nuts Super Moderator

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    The thing about SAS drives - they suck for desktop use.

    The firmware is tweaked for high IO and random R/W, neither of which feature heavily in a desktop environment (yes, even if you multitask lots).

    Consumer drives are the best option for consumers, funnily enough.
     
  20. HourBeforeDawn

    HourBeforeDawn a.k.a KazeModz

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    wow Im so glad I went for two 1.5tb Seagates because by those results much better buy ^__^
     
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