I have lived in this same house now for 5 years and had the same neighbour for that time. The lad who lives next door is usually OK, and lived on his own since his mother went to live in Spain. All that was until he got with a new lass, and she is an out and out nutter. It turns out he is a wife beater too though, who likes hitting her. We get to hear their antics regularly. I even called the police one night after he had thrown her down the stairs. Another problem is that they turned every friday night into party night at their house, with music absolutely blaring until the very early hours. I got fed up one night, and went round to sort it out. They ignored the door, and just kept the music blaring. They had woken me, my wife and our two kids one too many times now. So I called the "party line", part of the local council, where there were environmental health officers on call to deal with problems like this. The officers called for police backup, and served an abatement notice that night on the doorstep. It cured the noise from the parties, but last night saw my daughters being scared out of their wits by these oxygen thiefs next door. In the early hours an absolute battle had kicked off between the lad and the lass next door. I think he had hit her, and she went mental over it. She ended up outside their house, screaming obsenities and then went on to put the front windows through. By this time, my kids were cowering in fear. They have never witnessed crap like this before. She then went round to the back, and put the kitchen windows through. Next thing, she was in the kitchen, the police had arrived, and she was armed with a knife. I don't know who she was threatening with it, but the police were taking it seriously. Then the lad emerged from the house with a head injury, but I think she had thrown something at him earlier. My family heard almost every word of what was happening, and we weren't given the choice to hear it or not. So we have woken up this morning, all groggy from the lack of sleep yet again. There will be no apology from the neighbours, and it will happen again. I am getting to the point now where I am going to crack some friggin heads if it carries on. I haven't thrown a punch in anger for a very long time, but last night is severely testing my patience. My kids and wife were terrified, and I was ready to kick off, this is no way for neighbours to be carrying off. I'm going to see my solicitor on monday, and see about what I can do about them. When it comes to my kids being woken up terrified, then it's gone waaay too far!!! Here's a quick pic of the kids bike she threw through the kitchen window last night, still embedded in the window:
Bad times! Is their house owned by them or rented? if the latter i would have thought they would be breaching any contract they have. If its owned by them then im not so sure. I used to live above somebody that liked loud music at stupid times, but he was also easy to talk to and we came to an agreement, it doesnt sound like your going to get that luxury. I think you've done well to restrain yourself so far tbh, im not sure that i could have held back, I know violence isnt the answer,but im stupidly protective over my daughter. I hope your solicitor can find you a happy ending, but i wouldnt get your hopes up tbh.
As much as you might want to go around and get violent, for the sake of you children stay out of it. I'm sure they wouldn't want to see their dad set the example of solving the problems with violence, and not only that but if you get physically involved then, going by their previous record, how can you be sure that you, your family or your home won't become a target next? I live nearby my town's council estate and there are some areas or people you just avoid to talk to or get involved with because you know it's just not going to end well. As frustrating as it might be, you've done everything right so far - Calling the right people, phoning the police when there is violence, etc. I must applaud you for phoning the police during the beatings too, more people should.
Bad times indeed. I'm in training for a sponsored walk at the moment too, so the regular disturbed sleep doesn't help at all. I really was a gnat's arse away from going round there myself last night, but someone else must have called the police, and they turned up before I did. Looking back, it was definitely a good thing they did appear when they did. I am considering taking out a civil action against the neighbours, that's why I am going to see my solicitor. I'm not sure if I can, but he will be the man who knows. I don't know what their status is with the house, whether it's rented or not, as I have never really spoken to the lad. We had a few problems when we first moved in, so we never got to know him. I only know about his mum moving to Spain because the last owner of my house told me. He came back to the house earlier, I don't know if they both got locked up last night or not, not seen the lass. I went round to have a word, but yet again he ignored the door. He hasn't even shifted the kids bike out of the window yet, or had any of the other windows boarded up. I called the police this morning, and asked if they had received a call to that address last night, so I could get the incident number if so. I got that, so Monday morning I am calling environmental health again, they have an abatement order in place already, so they could be prosecuted now, fingers crossed. I have had to sit my 4yr old down, and try to give her reassurance that we didn't have anything to worry about with the neighbours, and it gutted me having to do so. I swear, one more night like last night, and I am coming out swinging first!
Sorry to read about your troubles. Trying to raise a young family next door to a dysfunctional couple is not fun. Going around to punch their lights out won't help either, unfortunately. Think about it: their arguments regularly escalate into serious violence and this has stopped neither of them from continuing with the same old pattern of behaviour. They are still together; they still fight; they still need the police to come in and separate then. Adding your physical violence into the mix won't change anything; it would just be a other driver to that dynamic. I think that your current approach is the best one. If they are renting (even from his mom) they could get evicted. If they are owners, they can be served with an ASBO. There are legal means. All you have to do is make them a troublesome blip on the radar of the police. Keep calling them out, every time. Also see if there are other neighbours troubled by them and join forces (legally speaking). Meanwhile tell the four-year old that next door's couple are just really unhappy and therefore they fight a lot with each other, but they are no harm to anyone but themselves. Explain to her that sometimes people are together just because they are too frightened of being alone, even though they don't really like each other very much. They end up fighting a lot but neither of them leaves because it scares them to be alone. They are people to feel sorry for really, because they don't have a family who loves them and to feel safe in like your daughter does. Keep in mind that your children will look at your behaviour for an indication of how to judge and feel about a situation. If you appear calm and in control, the fighting will be a bit unsettling but not scary. If you react with anger and aggression they will get scared.
I know that going round there would probably only add fuel to the fire, and it would be wrong to do so for the sake of my kids and wife, but everyone has their limits. I'm really trying to stretch mine at the moment, so that I don't do something stupid. Thanks for that advice Nexxo, on what to tell our youngest, I will do that later. Thankfully, she's at a friend's birthday party now, so it will take her mind off last night. I really tried to keep calm in front of the kids last night, and managed to keep a lid on it pretty well considering. I let out the odd muffled expletive every now and then though., Hopefully, they didn't pick up on the fact that I was mightily peeved. I'm definitely chasing this up with environmental health and my solicitor, I don't think any of the other neighbours will bother though, as it's not seen to be good to talk to the authorities around these parts. I really couldn't give a crap though, what anyone thinks, enough is enough. I doubt anyone will say anything though, because they all moan behind closed doors round here too.
Basically all you can do is phone the coppers and the council repeatedly until someone sorts them out, as has already been said in the topic Can I ask? Was it your kids' bike that went through the window? As I'm sure you can claim off their house insurance if it is Granted it's only a kids' bike, but any way of *legally* getting back at them is worth a try
No it was theirs. .. I called the council noise team today, and didn't get anywhere. The party patrol finishes visits at 3am, so when this happened on the early hours of Saturday morning, I didn't think there would be anyone to contact. My plan was to call first thing this morning, which I did. I was told that if a noise abatement order has been served previously, then I could have called and an officer from the council team would have attended that night. But because I didn't, there is nothing the council can do, as they have to witness the problem themselves to be able to take action. At least I know for next time They also said that if the violence happens again, to call the police, as the council can't take action on that. They can only deal with noise coming from within the house (when they are shouting or blasting the music out). I spoke to my solicitor briefly today too, and I'm going to see him on Thursday. If there's any way I can pursue this in the civil courts I will be. On another note, they were banging doors all last night, so I was up all night. If I get disturbed from my sleep, I can't get back to sleep, even if I have only had 1/2 an hours kip. So I have been up now for around 36hrs, and am trying to stay awake till around 10pm, so I can go to bed at a normal hour and get up at a normal hour tomorrow I wonder what next weekend will bring? More of the same I hope not!!
Sadly with two kids of your own you can't pay them back with some noise of your own which I decided to do, and that helped shut them up downstairs, though the tenants changed yet again and the new lot's arguments have now stopped. We ignore each other in the street so I just document things with the police, mediation isn't going to work with these *******s. Aside from that, continue to document visual damage anywhere around the boundaries of the property and ensure your digicam's date function is up to date and accurate, whenever you feel you need to keep a record then get hold of that non-emergency police number as well to build up a picture of the disturbances as well as just noting down dates and times of anything they pull including whether the ****ers put their building waste in your wheeliebin to try and get you a fine (to name one example)
When i was young and my family lived in a flat, the 3 lads next door where having a massive party blasting music out, My dad thought it was the guy in the flat upstairs so went up got him to open his door gave him a massive shouting at, Which the lads next door heard, after hearing the shouting they turned the music off and we never had problems again! You should really pull this lad aside when no ones about give him a good warning, If it doesn't look like hes taking it in, Knock it into his thick skull. Thinking about how this waste of space terrified your kids and wife.
Had a few similar nights with are neighbours for the last 10 years. A mother and two kids moved in to the house next door, she was a south African national, with in the coming 18 months she had found some poor bast*rd and married him, making her a British national. We had been having problems with her up to the point until she got with this guy, he even come round and had a go at us for complaining about the noise in the past. We took him aside and told him the truth, if he didn't believe us he is more than welcome to ask the rest of the street, which he then did. He left her with in the week, sick of lies she generated. After he left all sh*t broke out in the street, they had parties every night, pikies were friends with them, so always around and everyone in the street were on the look out 24/7. The last straw came when i found on of the little f*cks trying to get into my car, i ran out confronted him, he swung at me, and i floored the punk. What i didn't know is the pikies dad was walking up the street, i noticed him out the corner of my eye. Lucky he had seen the whole thing, and beat his son in the side of the head with a newspaper and told him to leave. Think i got lucky it didn't start a piky war... 2 years move on, pikies have moved on, and there is a young man in this mothers life, she about (40) he was early 30's. They have a bad break up, he leaves comes back 30mins later kicks the front door in and all we hear is screaming and shouting. Police turn up and this bloke leaves the house too quietly, something was up. Officer on his own, 1st mistake. 2nd mistake he turned his back on an un-handcuffed male just because he was crying and quiet. The male then produces a kitchen knife and slashes towards the police officer missing him. The officer retreats two car lengths and produces a pepper spray. Shouts to the houses that his radio is in his car, can anyone call 999, officer in distress. 10 minutes pass, and i spot blue lights at the bottom of the street, suddenly turn off, there on silent approach, creeping around the corner. With in 10 seconds a police V70 nails it and purposely runs the male with knife down, proper bump your on your ass now boy, for then two officers in body armour leap from the back of the car with MP5 like weapons drawn. It was only the local armed police turning up! Pepper sprayed and cuffed this time, back of police van. And we put the kettle on for a clearly shocked police officer, big bloke but shaken clearly. Now since then its been rather quiet, the odd late night music and loud talking, but no real problems, until May this year. The son living next door had been spreading rumours and crap about somebody. Anyway the lad who had been bad mouthed turned up calling him out to sort the problem with fisty cuffs. The little sh*t next door hid in doors hoping the problem would go away. Except this young man who was a tad miffed, decided to smash some stuff up. He tried kicking the front door in, but it had since been replaced with a uPVC 5 deadbolt door.. Gave up on that, and decided to wreak the car on the drive. Broke a wing mirror off, and then tried to punch a window out. Think he hurt is hand, so used the wing mirror to break all the windows on this escort. Upon pissing in the drivers seat he left still ticked off and broken some windows on a Van parked on the street. This said Van belonged to a chap with a 7 day old new born, who runs a private hire transport business, transporting children to school each morning. I went out to inspect my car, to find his van totalled in terms of glass. Lets just say he was might ticked off upon the news about his van, as he couldn't do his job in the morning and it would risk him losing his contract with the schools he works for. Then June comes along, music and talking blaring into the small hours, and my dad finally snaps completely after asking it to be turned down. In his red mist he may have mentioned that he would cut all there heads off and have a little tea party afterwards. They call the police, officer turns up goes there first to hear there story, comes around to talk to dad. And its only the officer who had a knife swung at him few years back. We all laughed, officer decided there was no cause to press any form of charges, and the women next door finally after 10 years gets an asbo for anti-social behaviour and wasting police time. May i mention for 10 years we have logged every single out of hand night with the council, same with other people in the street. Police have records of everything as well. So she stood no chance in court even if my dad had been prosecuted, for what, threatening to cut heads off and have a tea party...
Does'nt it suck how these days everyone seems to feel the need to share loud music and fights? We had a family living up are road they used to be completely little f**ckers to be honest noise fights using more swear words in a sentence than you may consider possible. It was funny though they used to act so tough until one day a group of about 12 where hanging outside my house "F'ing kick his head in the c*** bruv" and all that bullcrap next thing my dad walks up to the door and opens it with a pretty angry face on he just says "We got a problem here lads..." me standing behind him and my brother behind me (baring in mind these are kids 12-18) i was 18 at the time but i was about a foot taller than all of them same with my brother who is 24. Suddenly we hear the high pitch voices of "No sir" and "Sorry mate" as they scutter off into there holes i think they got a bit more than they bargained for when they started to annoy a local guy who happened to be a pretty dangerous man he did'nt start fights out of the ordinary bit of a druggy fellow but quiet so its not my problem, who turned up with a group of 25+ (age) men ready to tear some heads off. 2 weeks later the house is up on the market and they have left to terrorize someone else enviromental health are useless for music they drove past us when we rang about the music! window open rap and hip hop booming out when they did find it they just parked up for 10 minutes and drove away... nothing else
Funny that in Greece we don't have 'asbos'. We might be in the biggest poo with our economy, but at least we don't have pikeys and what not
