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Storage What are the current discs of choice (SSD+HDD)

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Cleggmeister, 1 Jan 2015.

  1. Cleggmeister

    Cleggmeister Of reasonable knowledge...

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    Hi folks,

    I'm looking to increase the storage in my NAS (currently running 2x2TB WD Green, 1x1TB Hitachi and 1x500GB WD), each one individually backed up to a USB drive as I don't like RAID.

    The weapon of choice seems to be 3TB WD Red for NAS operations - unless I'm missing something better or cheaper?

    And while I'm at it all my games are stored on a 1TB Samsung Spinpoint in my PC (this drive used to be the default for price/performance in a gaming system). I'm tempted to buy a 1TB SSD and shift my games across - so long as it's a good time to do that just now, or should I wait for prices to drop?

    No big rush on either upgrade but some pointers from those in the know would be appreciated!

    Many thanks and happy new year!

    Cleggy.
     
  2. edzieba

    edzieba Virtual Realist

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    Toshiba DT01ACA300.
    Toshiba bought Hitachi's 3.5" drive arm (WD only bought the 2.5" division) so they're essentially Hitachi drives, renowned for reliability. SMART log from one of them sitting in my Microserver:
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    SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
    Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
    ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
      1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000b   100   100   016    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
      2 Throughput_Performance  0x0005   139   139   054    Pre-fail  Offline      -       72
      3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0007   202   202   024    Pre-fail  Always       -       295 (Average 272)
      4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       11
      5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   005    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
      7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000b   100   100   067    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
      8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0005   124   124   020    Pre-fail  Offline      -       33
      9 Power_On_Hours          0x0012   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       7720
     10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   060    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
     12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       11
    192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       211
    193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       211
    194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0002   193   193   000    Old_age   Always       -       31 (Min/Max 14/40)
    196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0022   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0008   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
    199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x000a   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    Nearly a year of runtime (spindown disable), with no errors. And they're hosting a regularly scrubbed ZFS array, so there definitely aren't any bit errors hiding there.

    It's sale season, so if you grab a discounted 1TB SSD now, prices are unlikely to drop again to that level for some time. Plus there's the random variability in the NAND market, so depending on production and demand prices could swing further up or down with little warning.
     
  3. IvanIvanovich

    IvanIvanovich будет глотать вашу душу.

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    3D nand is rumored to make prices plummet on larger capacity ssd end of quarter/next quarter as they ramp up production. It may possibly be the first time we see 'sane' prices on 2/3/4TB ssd for consumer market.
    As for hdd, for me I have been buying Seagate ST4000DM/ST5000DX. They have been reliable and are very quiet drives with good fast performance. At least in the US Seagates are priced very aggressively for large capacity drives. I also have some smaller 2TB Toshiba DT*ACA which are also quite good though scheduled for replacement with larger drives.
     
  4. davidbrown1988

    davidbrown1988 Minimodder

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    I agree with IvanIvanovich. Cheapest 3tb drives I've found, in fact pretty much cheapest of any drive at any capacity usually ends up being a seagate drive.

    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/3tb-seagate-st3000dm001-barracuda-720014-sata-iii-6gb-s-7200rpm-64mb-cache-8ms-ncq-oem

    I make these drives about £16 per drive cheaper than the WD Red drives.

    I personally have 10tb of storage in my server spread across 2 1.5tb seagate barracuda's and two 3tb ones. Not had any issues with any of them. The final 1tb is on a hitachi drive which I've also had no issues with.

    Been running the dual 1.5tb's since 2010 the 3tb's since 2012. Not had any issues with any of them.

    Still got two 500gb barracudas been running daily since 2007. One of which is so old it has a jumper for sata 1. :D
     
  5. Cleggmeister

    Cleggmeister Of reasonable knowledge...

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    Thanks folks, much appreciated.

    Just logged onto Amazon to buy some drives and the prices are up on all of them, around 15%. The power of Bit-Tech! :)

    I'll check out the other UK suppliers in the meantime and report back...
     
  6. Cleggmeister

    Cleggmeister Of reasonable knowledge...

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    DABS significantly cheaper than Amazon on the Toshiba drives as recommended by edzieba. Bought!

    My thanks again Edzieba!.
     

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