What are these protesters thinking?

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  1. stonedsurd

    stonedsurd Is a cackling Yuletide Belgian

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    I am appalled and disgusted by the level of ignorance. I knew the OC was conservative but yelling "Go home" to a bunch of people whose only home for a generation or more has been your city, state or country is a bit moronic, isn't it?
     
  2. Malvolio

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    It bewilders me that there are people such as those in this world - but yet it doesn't surprise me somehow. I'm sickened, offended, and speechless at what the protesters stance was. One thing I wonder though: do any of those protesters have a family lineage going back more than one hundred years within the confines of the United States? Doubtful. Pure hypocrisy for one group of immigrants to tell another to leave.

    What puzzles me even more is just how racist and bigoted the elected officials in that clip actually were - how can somebody like that even make close to a sane decision for the welfare of the people, if they're so vehemently against the people? It is things like this that make me glad I won't live forever.
     
  3. Cthippo

    Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag

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    Video doesn't want to load. Which protesters are we talking about?
     
  4. Malvolio

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    Here's a brief write-up from The Society Pages:

    A local chapter of the Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) Relief, a Muslim charity organization that raises money for women’s shelters, food pantries, disaster relief, and other humanitarian work, sponsored a fundraiser at the Yorba Linda Community Center.

    Chrissy Y. sent in a video of the protest. It includes chants of “Go back home!”, “USA!”, and “terrorist!” amid loud boos as individuals walked into the center. At around 3:10 a woman accuses a man of beating his wife and being a child molester. Between the conflation of Muslim with being inherently un-American, the conflation of all Muslims with terrorists, and the reliance on the stereotype of Muslim men as brutal oppressors of victimized women, it is an ugly, ugly example of anti-Muslim sentiment.


    This doesn't begin to describe just how revolting the video actually is to watch.
     
  5. morkfromork

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    What shocks me the most is the fact that most of the people an not young 18-19 year olds there middle aged men and women. The pure hatred is unbelieveble from some of them along with the pure ignorence.

    Do these people not understand that hatred like this leads to people being coerce into doing terrorist things. The worse thing about the whole video for me is the poloticians stocking the flames of hatred.
     
  6. Wicked_Sludge

    Wicked_Sludge My eyes! The goggles do nothing!

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    my fiancée and i watched the whole clip absolutely speechless...people like this make me ashamed to call myself american.

    do people not bother with research (or simple reason for that matter) before they fire on protest mode? or are they just looking for something to hate? sickening...
     
  7. stonedsurd

    stonedsurd Is a cackling Yuletide Belgian

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    I honestly wanted to live here if I could, once I get done with my degree. Now I'm having very serious second thoughts.
     
  8. lp1988

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    I couldn't even watch the whole video.... the level of racism is just mind blowing, wonder when their KKK meeting is, or maybe they are more of the Westboro baptist church type.


    Move to Europe in stead I'll give you a tour when you get here :)

    the frightening thing is that there are officials being elected on being racist. and they have nukes...
     
  9. Cthippo

    Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag

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    It's harder to grow up racist these days. It's hard to blindly hate people you know and young people today are exposed to so much more diversity than their parents were. Not to say it can't be done, just that it's harder.

    There is getting to be more and more of this sort of willful ignorance in this country. I don't know where it started, but we live in a society where, despite greater access to information than ever before, facts have largely ceased to be relevant. Being demonstrably wrong is no longer an impediment to success in the public sphere in America. Until that changes, it's hard to see this country as anything but screwed.
     
  10. GeorgeStorm

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    Yet another reminder of how disgusting the human race can be. (and far too often is)
    Disgraceful, how can anyone have such hatred for no reason???

    I mean, my American History isn't great, but I'm fairly sure that Americans were all from Europe, and then they killed off the local populace, but they still feel they have the right to have a go at the Muslims??
    I sometimes hate our race.
     
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  11. Waynio

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    What a lovely bunch of people, was funny when the little girl waved to them, nice that was cool in the face of nonsense hate :), it would be difficult to remain nice & calm in the face of that.

    It is so dumb to taunt people like that, hate breeds hate & violence breeds violence so it's best to be nice & at least try to get along & always have good defense skill for random bad things, seems like you need to be like Jet Li with the calmness of a buddhist.

    I'd love to know if the girl waving to them sparked a WTF am I doing thought among any of the protesters, I really don't know how it couldn't, but I could hear 1 female voice leading it all who sounded like a horrible mosquito (nearly said pig but pigs are ok & tasty :hehe:).
     
  12. wafflesomd

    wafflesomd What's a Dremel?

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    I've been trying to get out of the U.S. for years but the funds just aren't there yet.
     
  13. omicron

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    The irony in this thread is hilarious.
    So the bigoted Americans who think that the actions of a few muslims are indicative of those of the majority are, in turn, representative of the whole of America, are they? :eyebrow:
     
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  14. Showerhead

    Showerhead What's a Dremel?

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    I don't remember anyone in the thread implying that.
     
  15. Nexxo

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    I think they were. The actions of this fine enlightened bunch of citizens have been interpreted as indicative of the decline of the whole country and the whole human race respectively. Omicron has got a valid point.
     
  16. Malvolio

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    I took it more as "there are quite a lot of really messed up people in this world, recent events would signal this, and the event we're currently discussing only helps to encourage such a stance". This doesn't say "[these] bigoted Americans... [are] representative of the whole of America" (courtesy of omicron - not to say that the statement is his viewpoint). If somebody does think such a thing, then they're no better than the protesters we're all disgusted by. While I may be wrong in the viewpoint that I inferred from the other posters within this thread, it still stands to reason that anybody making a blanket statement is wrong by default, irrespective of which side of the fence their on (if there is even a fence).

    By no means is the bigoted minority indicative of those that live within the confines of the United States, nor of any other Western nation, but one could easily argue that they're getting more vocal, and more prominent in recent years. It isn't hard either to see that these people are in power within many nations, and are slowly asserting their racist, bigoted, segregationist agenda via a multitude of means, even if they are in the minority within government (the Tea Party exemplifies this point nicely).
     
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    "The price of freedom is internal vigilance" --John Philpot Curran

    People often fail to realise that it is not a conquering enemy who they should be looking out for, but themselves.
     
  18. Malvolio

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    I couldn't agree more.

    Fas est et ab hoste doceri. - Ovid
     
  19. thehippoz

    thehippoz What's a Dremel?

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    actually now that I'm thinking about it.. what if you made like a set of amp/speakers and a microphone- write a program to run on a laptop

    then point them at whatever you want to cancel.. the sound goes in- gets amped and goes out to cancel using big sub woofers/mids in the distance

    that would probably work.. or invert the wav and aim it towards the area you want quiet- the same way those noise canceling headphones work but on a larger scale.. wonder if something like that would work

    I may have just made someone rich xD it's a good idea to sell if it works well- and pretty easy to make

     
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  20. supermonkey

    supermonkey Deal with it

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    That's fair enough; I admit it is a valid point. However, if we take the protest in this thread and put it in the context of the apparent resurgence of conservative Evangelical Christianity and its effect on the politics of our country, you can begin to appreciate why some Americans are looking for alternatives.

    In my opinion, I think the conservative Christian right is being used by oligarchs to encourage the masses to vote for corporation-friendly politicians. If the folks at the rally started looking at what the Koch brothers have been up to, and their influence on Wisconsin politics for example, they might begin to realize that we shouldn't be worried about Muslims. We should be worried about corporate leaders using union busting (or religion) as a smoke screen to hide what's really in those proposed bills.

    While some of the people in this thread have voiced an opinion about the downfall of the US, I'm not sure it's just because of the video in the original post. I think that for them the video just serves as yet another example of how this country seems to be losing its direction.
     

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