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Other What mouse do you currently game with?

Discussion in 'Gaming' started by Shadowed_fury, 12 Apr 2010.

  1. Siberdine

    Siberdine Safety Not Guaranteed.

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    I'm using the Coolermaster Sentinel, I found the extra buttons useful in MMO's... I don't like the fact that it's quite heavy though, despite having the weights taken off.

    I switch between 1400-2600 dpi, in intervals of 400. Most of the time while not playing games I leave it on 1800 dpi.
     
  2. GravitySmacked

    GravitySmacked Mostly Harmless

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    Yep the control pod's display was fading so I contacted their customer support asking if I could buy a replacement.

    They couldn't get a new pod so they sent me a whole new set 2 months out of warranty - bloody brilliant service.
     
  3. SproutWinkler

    SproutWinkler Spending a penny...

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    I haven't found anything better than my Logitech G9 but I'm not a hardcore gamer. I just like the feel (and pretty colours :) )
     
  4. fu3lman

    fu3lman Firestarter

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    The only mouse worth using IMHO. Nothing else compares.
     
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  5. Sloth

    Sloth #yolo #swag

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    Hokayz! Time to stop being so lazy and actually write up how the R.A.T. 7 has been so far since some people have shown interest:

    First and foremost, I won't be posting any pictures/videos of my mouse. It's exactly like other reviews have shown, all I hope to do is describe what goes on beyond the looks, particularly how useful it is in a gaming-heavy environment.

    That being said, the first lesson I learned with this mouse was simple: Your habits may not be what you think/wish they are. Upon getting the mouse I immediately stretched out the palm piece a bit since my hand always sat back on my Razer Diamondback 3G, and attached the flared pinky piece which lets you rest your fingers since I thought I'd like to have it. After about five minutes of use my wrist was hurting and I was shifting my grip every 30 seconds to try and get comfortable. Turns out the most comfortable setup I thought I'd never use. So as a caveat, do not go buying this mouse thinking that you know how you'll set it up. Be ready for change and keep your mind open to other mousing techniques, the one you use now may feel good on your current mouse but it may just be something you've adapted for that mouse and you may find others better when you've got a decent fitting mouse.

    Now onto the mouse itself. First thing I noticed, the surface is a smooth sort of rubberized plastic, but it isn't as grippy as my Diamondback and that really caught me off guard. Using just my thumb, ring, and pinky fingers on either side I had to apply a decent amount of pressure to get enough grip to lift the mouse. However, this smoother surface is harder to get dirty and really feels plush. The stock pieces, raised palm piece, and flared pinky rest are all of this material. The grippier rubber pieces (which I personally use) are a grooved rubber which provides a great grip for those who desire it. They are also easily kept clean since they aren't as sticky and rely more on the grooves for traction.

    Mentioning the interchangable parts, I'll touch briefly on them using just an objective analysis. The pinky rest is really just a pinky rest. I couldn't comfortably fit my ring finger on it at the same time, this seems to be designed for people who use their ring finger for right click. Also, the pinky piece has no forward-back adjustability. As mentioned earlier, I tend to sit a bit far back on my mice (and have smaller hands) so the rest was a bit too far forward and I felt myself choking up when trying to use it. However, I assume that most people who want to use that rest will have bigger hands and a palm style grip so it's really only a flaw if you think these problems apply to you. The raised palm piece is a nifty idea and something I can forsee many larger handed people using. Reason being: this is the shortest mouse I've ever used, as in actual mousing surface to top of mouse height. Those used to bulkier mice will love having that extra 4mm resting right in the palm of their hands. I've already covered the grippy rubber pieces enough, they're just the stock shape with a different material.

    So what about those stock pieces? Well, they're all quite excellent. The left and right click buttons are a little crisper on the click than I'm used to, it doesn't take much force to click them and there's less travel between resting and click than my Diamondback (and generic MS mouse at work). The scroll wheel is spaced a little farther from the side buttons than I'd love, but it's just fine in general. It has a pretty soft tick compared to some other mice, but it is certainly there. It's quiet too. The two side buttons have no plastic above them so they're essentially floating. This makes them feel a little flimsy but I've given it a little torture test and I trust them. And of course, what you're likely all interested in: the sniper button! It's a little far forward from my thumbs compared to the side buttons (you can slide the whole kit back/forward, but not the buttons in relation to each other) so I kinda have to choke up again for that, but that also means there's no chance of me pressing it down in a tense situation where my grip is tigher, you have to know you're sniping/slowing down and want to press it. The metal scroll wheel is awesome, it's pretty easy to reach and I've never had troubles of accidentally scrolling it. Again, the clicks are a mite soft for some, but they're just right imo. I can scroll about five clicks in either direction before having to move my thumb back, so it's pretty good as a weapon/item switching scroll if you'd rather rebind your main scroll, and it's quick enough to reach if you'd rather rebind it to be more of an action "button".

    About that rebinding! The software support for the mouse is pretty nifty. You get four DPI settings which can be selected on the fly very easily and each adjusted to your liking, you get to set the slow down percentage for the sniper button (sadly you can only choose one set speed for all settings, I use 37% for a more drastic effect), you get three on the fly configs for button layout (sadly not three unique sets of four DPIs as far as I can tell) which let you rebind everything except the sniper button, left and right clicks, and middle mouse click. And I don't just mean binding to "Mouse4" rather than "Mouse3", you can set up all sorts of macros which respond very quickly. Currently I've got the side scroll bound to perform a left click when scrolled in either direction so I can spam click by scrolling side to side. Just for fun/proof of concept I bound one of the side buttons to "The Game. *enter*" on a spare profile so whenever I have a text box open it will type The Game and then send the message. This is with the software that came in the box, I'll have to check newer version later for any updates.

    Now for some subjective thoughts while gaming: My old Diamondback isn't exactly the highest DPI mouse. While I've never had issues with tracking, there is a very distinct speed different when going to a 5600 DPI mouse. The first game I decided to try was Killing Floor which had its own mouse speed set at 1.5, aka 150% of normal mouse speed. Now, I'm normally a damn good KF player, I do not feel like I am exaggeration when I say that. However, even I died on the first wave as I was so disoriented. Thankfully, I remembered "O HAI, four DPI settings" and turned it way down until I could manaully configure better speeds later. Now I've got a setup where speed 1 is desktop, speed 2 is KF, speed 3 is general gaming, speed 4 is BFBC2 vehicles. With my Diamondback there was on the fly switching, but having to bind a dedicated button to it and then scroll to a value which I had to remember on my own was just a bit too cumbersome compared to the RAT's rocker switch-esque buttons and helpful four indicator lights. It's helped me see on the fly in a whole new light. So after getting all that good stuff working in KF it was CS:S time. Here the software-rebound scroll wheel let me perform my hilarious "Full Auto Dualies" trick while still being able to fire with left click since it wasn't bound in game! Other uses I've been tinkering with is a grenade binding since it's a quick sweep of the thumb to scroll up, and with a grenade there is no harm in scrolling over a few clicks. Perhaps maybe bind it to "4, left click" to select the grenade first in CS:S. I'll have to try it. Other than just bindings, I've gotten to quite like how well I can make the mouse fit and am enjoying how low it is. Only slight downside while gaming has been that there are screws which are meant to be flush with the aluminum body on the bottom, but they stick out just barely and ever so slightly touch my mouse pad. I can't feel any drag, but I can hear them touching when I move the mouse. That makes it one of two objective flaws that I'd really mark it down on, the other being the non-adjustable location of the pinky piece.

    All in all, it's been a great mouse and I'm quite happy with my purchase. I'n the Bit-Tech style I'd give it a 9/10 for Performance, 10/10 for Features, and 7/10 for Value. Overall 9/10 and Recommended by me.
     
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  6. GravitySmacked

    GravitySmacked Mostly Harmless

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    Informative write up +rep
     
  7. smc8788

    smc8788 Multimodder

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    +1, though a couple of questions if I may:

    1) Do the moveable parts like the thumb rest/palm rest move if you put pressure on them, or are they quite solid and not likely to move during a game?

    2) What kind of surface were you using it on, and what kind of material are the mouse feet made of? (I generally prefer hard, low friction mouse pads, so I'd need them to be very smooth so they glide easily)
     
  8. Sloth

    Sloth #yolo #swag

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    1) The palm rest moves by pressing a lever on the underside. This releases a little tab that fits into slots on the rail that it follows. Since the tab sets into the slots in this rail you can't position it between rails (they're very close together) but it does mean that you won't be sliding that palm rest any time soon. You'd have to clamp the mouse in a vice and slam on it hard enough to break the tab. The thumb piece moves by using the attached screwdriver thing to turn a wormgear which slides the thumb piece forward or back. I suppose it might slip along this gear if you pressed hard on the back or front of it, but it's on the side and I'd be very confused as to how you'd managed to do so while holding the mouse in any fashion that could remotely be called normal.

    2) Razer Goliathus Speed version. It's a tightly woven fabric, meant to be close to a metal surface I assume. The feet I'm not sure on the material of. They're black slippery plasticy seeming things, I assume Teflon. Iirc, the Mad Catz product page said they were rubber but I can't see how that would be.

    Also, I totally failed to mention the weights. You can see the exact weights on their product page or most reviews. All I have to add is that the spring loaded holding system prevents them from sliding around if you don't use them all, and the weight will be towards the center of the mouse and moving towards the back (towards your palm) as you add more in.
     
  9. Canon

    Canon Reformed

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    Thinking about picking up a G5, nothing special but I don't feel I need anything more. Also I don't want to break the bank right now as it's likely to get replaced shortly.

    Anyone ever used one?
     
  10. [ZiiP] NaloaC

    [ZiiP] NaloaC Multimodder

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    I have the Logitech G5 rev 2. Fantastic mouse. I have the weights set nicely so it moves just righ for me, it's comfortable, chunky and damn responsive! Can't go wrong. I've had it 5 years now and still going strong :thumb:
     
  11. The_Beast

    The_Beast I like wood ಠ_ಠ

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    Not the greatest but it gets the job done. It suck when it runs out of battery in the middle of a gun fight. I do plan on upgrading to a proper gaming mouse sometime soon
     
  12. Canon

    Canon Reformed

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    Well, I have a little novelty mouse (or two) for my laptop, and I got a new one in today for my desktop, broke the cyborg. pics and that below.

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    Novelty mice (incase you didn't notice.) ^

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    nuff said there really.. ^
     
  13. stonedsurd

    stonedsurd Is a cackling Yuletide Belgian

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    JIZZ! :HEHE:
     
  14. seamatt

    seamatt PC Building Joey

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    Just got the Logitech G9, as have been using a Razer Copperhead for years.

    Went for the G9 for the fatboy grip, as I am sure the slim feel of my Copperhead was causing me to have problems. So far so good, but I feel the weight thing is a bit of a gimmick.
     
  15. Joey_B

    Joey_B Theres a SNAKE in my boot!!

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    MX518

    I currently use the Logitech MX518 after seeing loads of fantastic recommendations from the huge following it seemed to have.

    It started to get a bit tacky with the paint wearing off so i striped the mouse down, removed the small metal Logitech logo, filled the hole with some car body filler, sanded and applied some 3M Carbon Fibre Wrap, looks fantastic!

    Sadly the scroll wheel is playing up now intermitantly not working :(

    Any ex-MX518 users have a suggestion for a mouse to upgrade to?? Not sure I get the whole "weighted mouse" thing and the benefits of it :confused:.
     
  16. smc8788

    smc8788 Multimodder

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    Well, the mouse wheel on my second Roccat Kone has just started playing up. I really can't be bothered to RMA it again since I'll just get another one and the mouse wheel will most likely break again.

    I don't know what else to try so I'm just going to have to wait for the R.A.T 7 to be released in a few weeks I think. The Kone is the best mouse I've ever used in every way except for the mouse wheel, the damn thing is just too fragile and keeps breaking :(
     
  17. Sloth

    Sloth #yolo #swag

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    [FANBOY] Recently carried my R.A.T. 7 in a backpack full of junk and it came out just fine, with all my adjustments still correctly kept even with various forces applied to them. Only problem was that a hair slid up into the hole with the lasers and blocked one. Had me kind of confused when my mouse would no longer track left, until I picked it up and blew the hair out. Definately worth it. [/FANBOY]
     
  18. SPNKR

    SPNKR Pretty Good Kid

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    Intellimouse Cheesecake baby!

    This is what i've got now, sans cool paintjob, though it will be delegated to laptop duty once my Logitech MX 518 gets here. $25 from newegg (prolly around 17-18 pounds for you brits), can't beat the price.

    -SPNKR
     
  19. pandoraocicat

    pandoraocicat What's a Dremel?

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    A razer deathadder left handed edition.

    Finally after years us south paws get a proper mouse.

    :clap:
     
  20. BradShort

    BradShort Familyman - Fraggin when allowed :P

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    I am Ex MX-518 and was concerned about my next mouse. After a lot of shopping around and testing i settled on the G500 . Same feel as the mx-518, but better dpi and weights. I like my mouse heavy so i chucked all the weights in and i think i made a good choice.
     

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